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seethroughyou Posted: Tue, Apr 7 2020 6:02 PM
There’s talk of new products in 2020 and wondered if any fellow Beoworlders have vague knowledge of what is on the horizon without compromising B&O?

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moxxey replied on Tue, Apr 7 2020 8:35 PM

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There’s talk of new products in 2020 and wondered if any fellow Beoworlders have vague knowledge of what is on the horizon without compromising B&O?

There's no new Horizon coming.

What's the plan with the new Eclipse? I saw an ex-demo one for sale the other day at £5400 and that's tempting, but would be interested in seeing what's coming with Eclipse v2.

However, we also need to remember that dealers are closed. I cannot imagine anything will be released now without dealer support as a) people can't see the products in person and that's essential for expensive items and b) very unfair to the dealer network if B&O sells new products direct. My guess is that new products will be delayed until retail opens worldwide, June/July.

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I do not have any insider information but this is what I have heard so far:

beovision Harmony 88inch (Should be very close now)

beovision Eclipe V2 (if rumors are correct not much is change just a plate made so you can fit a stock Lg C9/CX on the current soundcenter) Should be close so I would wait if I was you Moxxey

beoremote Halo (know have it looks have no idea what it does?)

high end over ear Headphone

Gaming headset

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moxxey replied on Wed, Apr 8 2020 8:39 PM

Emil Jensen:

beovision Eclipe V2 (if rumors are correct not much is change just a plate made so you can fit a stock Lg C9/CX on the current soundcenter) Should be close so I would wait if I was you Moxxey

Interesting. I spoke with the boss of a UK dealership today (by email) and asked him about the Eclipse v2 and he claims it's still - at this stage - a set of rumours and there's no set or guaranteed release date.

To quote "there’s been rumours of it being due imminently, however the last time I spoke with our contact, he informed me they were still in the development stage – so we aren’t expecting any news soon"

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Sandyb replied on Wed, Apr 8 2020 9:58 PM
moxxey:

Interesting. I spoke with the boss of a UK dealership today (by email) and asked him about the Eclipse v2 and he claims it's still - at this stage - a set of rumours and there's no set or guaranteed release date.

To quote " there’s been rumours of it being due imminently, however the last time I spoke with our contact, he informed me they were still in the development stage – so we aren’t expecting any news soon"

Was told exactly the same by my (very experienced) dealer in London

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mbee replied on Wed, Apr 8 2020 10:11 PM

Strange as it really is just an adaptation plate according to the rumors... The development phase could look like "let's call STB to make a plate for a stock C9/CX" Big Smile

This would mean buying a V1 Eclipse at a discounted price could be interesting if one can find this plate in the future to replace the panel if needed (technically I doubt it will be needed, but as LG doesn't give new apps to old sets, it could be because an app makes you want the new panel). This would be a V1 that becomes a V2!

A1 in wifi (Airplay+Chromecast?) should come soon as the A1 are now discounted.

And H4 could be updated, also because it is discounted... Or maybe it will just leave the portfolio without replacement.

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moxxey replied on Thu, Apr 9 2020 11:02 AM

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Strange as it really is just an adaptation plate according to the rumors... The development phase could look like "let's call STB to make a plate for a stock C9/CX" Big Smile

There's one person spreading that rumour :) None of the other dealers I've spoken to has this detail! They know almost nothing and my experience of dealers is that they have a fairly good idea what's coming, about 6 months in advance. Very rarely is a B&O product released they weren't expecting.

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Razlaw replied on Thu, Apr 9 2020 4:14 PM
mbee:

A1 in wifi (Airplay+Chromecast?) should come soon as the A1 are now discounted.

That would be very interesting. I have always liked the A1 but wished for WiFi.

Does not appear to be discounted however on the B and O page.

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moxxey replied on Thu, Apr 9 2020 5:04 PM

Razlaw:

That would be very interesting. I have always liked the A1 but wished for WiFi.

Does not appear to be discounted however on the B and O page.

Looks like it's out of stock online - they must have sold quite a few since the 30% promo went live. I bought the "Natural Brushed" discounted the other day. It's fantastic.

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Razlaw replied on Thu, Apr 9 2020 6:04 PM
Four colors available when I look online, three sold out.

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1990 replied on Thu, Apr 9 2020 7:07 PM

2020 will mark the introduction of Alexa to the range as well. Alexa market share of the voice assistant market is rumoured to be at 50%. So it would be a clever addition. Curious how many Alexa products we’ll see this year. At least Balance (already announced) and the update A1...

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The dealers have now received pricelist for the new LG OLED,

Going to get,

ZX, GX and CX,

Properly going to use the GX model the most, also for Harmony,

Lets see

The G model also have a much better back panel with cabling. 

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Sandyb replied on Fri, Apr 10 2020 6:05 PM
Emil Jensen:

The dealers have now received pricelist for the new LG OLED,

Going to get,

ZX, GX and CX,

Properly going to use the GX model the most, also for Harmony,

Lets see

The G model also have a much better back panel with cabling.

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The G model looks fantastic- will it fit into the Harmony housing?

Isn’t the cable routing designed for use with the Harmony too?

Not sure what advantage it would offer over the C model for that use
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I dont know,

But optimal it could make the Harmony slimmer.

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Can I change my eclipse panel to the new GX?

Or will it not fit the soundbar?

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Sandyb replied on Sat, Apr 11 2020 9:57 AM

No - the G series has different physical dimensions.

Why would that fit an existing Eclipse?

 

 

mr_anders_son:
Can I change my eclipse panel to the new GX?

 

Or will it not fit the soundbar?

 

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mr_anders_son:
Can I change my eclipse panel to the new GX?

 

Or will it not fit the soundbar?

There could be a small chance that you can fit a CX on the soundcenter,

But nobody knows anything yet, and the solution seems far away now.

My guess of the delay (purely speculation)

1. the software is not ready

2. They are updating the Soundcenter for HDMI 2.1 which is not ready yet.

3. they have not sold all the old panels.

 

My money is on the latter

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Emil Jensen:

There could be a small chance that you can fit a CX on the soundcenter,

But nobody knows anything yet, and the solution seems far away now.

My guess of the delay (purely speculation)

1. the software is not ready

2. They are updating the Soundcenter for HDMI 2.1 which is not ready yet.

3. they have not sold all the old panels.

My money is on the latter

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Esax replied on Sat, Apr 11 2020 11:54 AM
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It is the next model so it should otherwise the b&o concept with harmony is a lose end.

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moxxey replied on Sat, Apr 11 2020 3:17 PM

Emil Jensen:

My guess of the delay (purely speculation)

Or, worldwide pandemic? It's put everything on hold. You can't release a TV when dealerships are closed.

I also read the other day that Apple staff are finding life very very different trying to design/test new tech for 2021 from home rather than the Apple HQ, which is understandable. Same theories apply to B&O's design/tech team. Most of us have been self-isolating for 4 weeks.

That's why there's a delay.

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Tassos replied on Sat, Apr 11 2020 4:52 PM

Emil Jensen:

I do not have any insider information but this is what I have heard so far:

beovision Harmony 88inch (Should be very close now)

beovision Eclipe V2 (if rumors are correct not much is change just a plate made so you can fit a stock Lg C9/CX on the current soundcenter) Should be close so I would wait if I was you Moxxey

beoremote Halo (know have it looks have no idea what it does?)

high end over ear Headphone

Gaming headset

 

Do you think that the soundcenter will be available as a stand alone purchase like the stage?

 

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Tassos:

Emil Jensen:

I do not have any insider information but this is what I have heard so far:

beovision Harmony 88inch (Should be very close now)

beovision Eclipe V2 (if rumors are correct not much is change just a plate made so you can fit a stock Lg C9/CX on the current soundcenter) Should be close so I would wait if I was you Moxxey

beoremote Halo (know have it looks have no idea what it does?)

high end over ear Headphone

Gaming headset

 

Do you think that the soundcenter will be available as a stand alone purchase like the stage?

 

It is all ready possible

see pricelist not that expensive

but beware not all function works this way yet

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Tassos replied on Sat, Apr 11 2020 6:17 PM

Emil Jensen:

Tassos:

Emil Jensen:

I do not have any insider information but this is what I have heard so far:

beovision Harmony 88inch (Should be very close now)

beovision Eclipe V2 (if rumors are correct not much is change just a plate made so you can fit a stock Lg C9/CX on the current soundcenter) Should be close so I would wait if I was you Moxxey

beoremote Halo (know have it looks have no idea what it does?)

high end over ear Headphone

Gaming headset

 

Do you think that the soundcenter will be available as a stand alone purchase like the stage?

 

It is all ready possible

see pricelist not that expensive

but beware not all function works this way yet

Yeap I already know that and since I am using a BLI it is not the best solution for me. I was hoping for a soundcenter like a beosystem 4 with an integrated speaker.

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