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Austin replied on Fri, Oct 9 2020 2:50 PM

I absolutely agree! I think it’s ridiculous that you have to get the Google voice version to stereo pair of them. I prefer not to have always listening mics in my speakers, but would totally stereo pair the non voice version. I hope enough people complain and they add a software update to the non voice version. 

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Esax replied on Sat, Oct 10 2020 12:17 PM
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As a pair or solo? I find it pretty difficult to believe that the Balance can replicate the stereo imaging of proper separates; and I don't particularly like how the Balance only supports stereo with Google and why I've never really considered it a true stereo speaker. Since the 17's are apparently on their way out though I'd love to see what B&O inserts into its "most affordable stereo speaker" price bracket.

Beolab 17 is good but balance has a better bass and a better overall sound image if you do not play too loud. As a singel balance.

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But wouldn't it be great if they got rid of all the "social" guff in these units, put a couple of powerlink sockets (and dare say I, a SPDIF port) and call them Beolab 30?

De facto heir/replacement of the BL3 and BL17 and something many of us will use, rather than dither over an ocean of single-point music sources currently in the catalogue.

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Austin replied on Sat, Oct 10 2020 3:26 PM

I absolutely agree with you. These are great sounding speakers and would be great if you could pair them and use them just like Beolabs speakers. The power, sound quality and technology is there.

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Curly replied on Sat, Oct 10 2020 3:53 PM

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Beolab 17 is good but balance has a better bass and a better overall sound image if you do not play too loud. As a singel balance.


The Balance’s two 5.25” bass drivers are better sounding than BL17’s single 6”? Wow, I’m surprised.

Well, IMHO, stereo pairs are a whole different league of setup, no matter how good a single standalone speaker is. Balance, BS1/2, etc. all have their place but once you start talking about stereo pairs, it’s just a different ballgame, even if you’re comparing BL17 against a single standalone with huge drivers such as Edge.

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Curly:

The Balance’s two 5.25” bass drivers are better sounding than BL17’s single 6”? Wow, I’m surprised.

I dont see that really matters. We have as single speaker units (excluding the P-Range)

M3, M5, BS1, BS2, Edge, A9 - plenty.

Then we have the big Beolabs:- BL90, BL50, with BL20, BL18 near to EOL I suppose in terms of tech and BL17 definitely EOL

BS Balance - evolutionary dead-end or something we have not seen yet?

 

I see a big gap between the Compacts and the full fat stereo range. It would seem to me to be economically reasonable to convert/make a variant of the BS Balance to be a "Beolab 30" (either with some BeoSound functionality or not), pairable to Stereo pair and intergratable to Beovisions, core etc..

Whether this is a called BL30 or a BL25 or Bert who cares? 

 

 

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Mikipidia replied on Sat, Oct 10 2020 7:20 PM
I want a beolab bert 🤣

Ps 18’s are here to stay, too iconic!

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Esax replied on Sun, Oct 11 2020 9:21 AM
Curly:

The Balance’s two 5.25” bass drivers are better sounding than BL17’s single 6”? Wow, I’m surprised.

Well, IMHO, stereo pairs are a whole different league of setup, no matter how good a single standalone speaker is. Balance, BS1/2, etc. all have their place but once you start talking about stereo pairs, it’s just a different ballgame, even if you’re comparing BL17 against a single standalone with huge drivers such as Edge.

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Previously: BeoSound 1 non-GVA

Have you heard it at your home? I have both

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Carolpa replied on Wed, Oct 14 2020 3:01 PM

Sw update on BS Balance.

Netradio is introduced......... for the moment no NL connection.

One can set your stations and add stations to the dots of the Balance as favorites.

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Very interesting.

It looks a bit like the Netradio function on my BV11 - maybe B&O are using the same portal for the Balance.

However, it is strange that they are not using TuneIn like on the rest of the multi room speakers.

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It makes sense that Balance would outperform BL 17. Updated DSPs, drivers and I am assuming using scaled back (or even the same) technology as on the higher end products with room compensation like the BL 50s. Clearly, based on the size of the Balance it is likely limited to lower volumes. But there is no reason why 2x 5.25 inch bass drivers won't outperform a single 6 inch driver. 

The BL 17 probably is better suited as a surround speaker. The BL 18, is clearly more iconic. 

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Dyssegaard:

Very interesting.

It looks a bit like the Netradio function on my BV11 - maybe B&O are using the same portal for the Balance.

However, it is strange that they are not using TuneIn like on the rest of the multi room speakers.

Yes, interesting.

They are using rhe term ‘Bang & Olufsen Radio’ - obviously/maybe not the same as TuneIn.

@Carolpa
Where did the radio stations come from?
Didn’t you have to login with the TuneIn credentials like with the other products?
Or did the app maybe already know that and added it to the Balance?
MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

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Carolpa replied on Wed, Oct 14 2020 8:46 PM
Millemissen:

Yes, interesting.

They are using rhe term ‘Bang & Olufsen Radio’ - obviously/maybe not the same as TuneIn.

@Carolpa Where did the radio stations come from? Didn’t you have to login with the TuneIn credentials like with the other products? Or did the app maybe already know that and added it to the Balance? MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.

no additional login, but the first impression was TuneIn. No possibilities to login for radio stations and TuneIn nowhere to be found.

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Thanks - seems to be something new then!

(They might indeed use the same ‘radio’ platform as the one used in the BV11/V1, Avant/2014)

Looking forward to learn more about this.

MM

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Esax replied on Thu, Oct 15 2020 4:30 PM
Jaffrey2230:

The BL 17 probably is better suited as a surround speaker. The BL 18, is clearly more iconic.

I think any beolab with alt would beat the 17. It’s to narrow without the alt tweeter. They are better for music, one on one.

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beolion replied on Thu, Oct 15 2020 5:08 PM
Millemissen:

Thanks - seems to be something new then!

(They might indeed use the same ‘radio’ platform as the one used in the BV11/V1, Avant/2014)

Looking forward to learn more about this.

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

Did B&O have their own net radio system somehow?

And, what is BS5 using? Same as V1/Avant?

TuneIn might have requirements in the future that can be difficult, also, did TuneIn not ditch bbc at some point?

But interesting.

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Hiort replied on Thu, Oct 15 2020 9:56 PM

I really hope this is either temporary on Balance, or something they will roll out on all other devices.

Would be really strange to have a different "radio" service on different devices in your home.....

 

 

 

 

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jk1002 replied on Sun, Oct 18 2020 2:45 AM

Does anyone know if support fir the Essence remote is planned or just the NL?

That is another thing that bugs me with it.

 

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JK

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