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JensT
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JensT posted on Wed, Sep 11 2019 5:53 PM

This is one long (and might be a terrible read..) post. If you do find the time to read it and have something to ad it might take some weight of my shoulders, and it would be much appreciated.

So, this is how the system works today: Avant 55 is connected through Wisa with BL90 as mains and BL4000 as rears (using the BL Wisa recivers on the rears)

I also have a Core with PL cables going to the BL90.

My main source for both music and movies is an AppleTV 4 going straight to the Avant using only an HDMI cable.Thats it. 

The idea behind implementing the Core came at a time when I was moving from one place to another and had to keep the tv at my old place for some time, and moving the speakers to my new place, so to be able to use the speakers while not having the tv I decided to get a Core so I could stream music with my phone. This used to work for some time when I was moving between apartments, the biggest issue for me was mainly volume control, witch I only had through my phone. So after connecting my tv back to the speakers at my new place I startet switching on the tv every time I wanted to listen to music in order to have volume control through the Beoremote One. In other words the Core is more or less not active at all nowadays.

The reasons being if I want to switch between TV and Core I need to accsess the B&O app and connect to the speakers and tell them what input I would like to use. There is some automatic input switching inside the speakers, but unfortunately not if using the Wisa connection, then it must be done «manually» through the app. This rather small inconvenience paired with the volum control only adjustable with my phone makes using my phone as main mucis source trough the Core far less enjoyable than I would like it to be.

I know there are a few options as getting an essence control, or a new Beoreomte One with BT functions (my Avant Beoreomte One is IR only) for volum control on the Core. There might also be some other options that I don’t know about. My dealer gave me an IR receiver (round one with a few buttons) that I plugged into the Core, witch was supposed to give me remote control. This I never got to work.. It only gave me the possibility to turn on/off the speakers.

If streaming music from my phone with volum control was the only issue I could easily do this through the AppleTV, but it would be nice to not having the TV switch on every time I want to play music.

Ive been using the system as is for the past 6 months or so and its been working ok. But playing my mucis through AppleTV is far from ideal. Ive been looking at several options and finally (as some unexpected money came my way) decided to try a few. I have zero experience with any of them, and as they are on the way and soon to arrive I could use some input on how to best integrate them. (Or just general tips, tricks and recommendations)

My first new «investment» is just a remote control, the Beoreomte One with BT functions. Ive been reading a little bit up on it and it seems I could use this controlling the Core that I already have and also switch between BT and IR mode to cotrol the Avant. As another member of this forum posted, its 5 button press between IR and BT mode, and vice versa. This would make using the Core more convenient - although not eliminate the need to switch between source on the BL90 trough the app..

My second and maybe a bit more exiting «new» B&O gear is the Beosound Moment. I can’t make up my mind about this one, but the prices are not that bad buying it second hand, and thers no doubt that I can resell it for the same amount I spent if It fails or becomes cumbersome. This is also my thinking behind the third «new» gear, the «old» Beosound 5. This was even cheaper than the Moment and has always looked superb to my eyes, might not be as «handy» as the Moment, and it might also be slightly outdated, but id really liked to try a few options, as my experience with these systems are non existing.

My plan as of now is to connect the Moment to the Core, as this would give me the option of listening to music without the TV turned on. 

To turn the system on, I would have to go into the B&O app and select source on the BL90s, and then the Moment is all set. (If I’m not mistaken)

The Beosound 5 system on the other hand needs the ML/NL converter (witch I lukely have laying around, used it before to connect my Besound 9000 to the Avant) and I guess it needs to be connected to the Avant? Witch might be leaving me with the same problem I have with the AppleTV, needing to switch on the TV to use it and play music.

There might be some really obvious way/s of making these systems work toghter that have not crossed my mind. If anyone found the time to read trough this post, and make any senes of it, I would be very thankful for any advise! 

As a side note, the Beosound 5 comes with the Beo6 ( I think its called) remote control - although im not sure if this is useful. 

And if anyone have some input on upgrading the Beomaster 5 system with a new SSD hard drive that would also be much appreciated. (After reading several threads on this forum regarding this topic, I’ve order a Wavlink hard drive docking and the Crucial MX300 1tb hard drive, and I belive I’m all set to give this a go)

So just ro recap, to make this post go from what’s above to one sentence.. - how would you best integrate the Avant with the Moment, Core and BS5?

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JensT replied on Wed, Sep 11 2019 6:05 PM

Its not that I need all these system to work together forever, its more that I would like to try a few options before I decide witch one I like the best. And the easier it is to switch between them, the better!

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Hej Jens, 

would be nice if you could specify how you want to listen to music - do you mean local music files from a NAS or from a streaming service (which one, then)?

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Also specify which version of the Avant-55, you have, the MK1 or the NG?

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JensT replied on Wed, Sep 11 2019 7:14 PM

First of all I would like I to listen to music without the TV being turned on. Today I normally use Tidal as my main music source, either trough an app on the AppleTV, usually, or via my phone trough the Core.

As of how I want to listen to music I'm not quite sure, witch is what brings me to buying both the Moment and the BS5.

I do have a CD collection that would be nice to implement into the BS5 - but I'm not sure how much it will be used.. And I'm considering going from Tidal over to Deezer as this is the only streaming option though Moment. When playing music over Tidal I find my self searching trough the same Artists over and over again, with the Moment maybe the mood wheel makes me explore music in a new way, or the BS5 similar option might make it so - I'm note sure!

The Avant was bought the day of release, so its the oldest version. Not sure witch one that makes it. Guess it was bought in 2015.

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JensT replied on Wed, Sep 11 2019 7:19 PM

Would like to edit my last reply, but can't seem to find any edit button. Is there no such function?

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9 LEE replied on Wed, Sep 11 2019 7:25 PM

JensT:

Would like to edit my last reply, but can't seem to find any edit button. Is there no such function?

Just click on the 'More' tab. A drop-down will appear, and the edit option is on there Smile

 

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JensT replied on Wed, Sep 11 2019 7:28 PM

Ok, thanks!

Tried this several times but my mouse pointer only gets a spinning disc and nothing happens. Might be an issue with safari? 

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JensT:

Might be an issue with safari?

It is .... I use Firefox for BeoWorld and I can Edit my posts

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That is definitely an issue with Safari on the iPad - I can’t edit either, unfortunately ☹️

MM

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@Jens,

did your B&O dealer never tell you about integrating or connecting the Core with the BV Avant?

That is what is called NetworkLink.

If you do that, you will have new sources in the source list of the tv - the socalled linked sources.

You can start these from there and the volume is controlled via the Avant/the BROne.

You can read about this in the User Guide of the Avant.

Note: there are some further steps to make for the Core using the Bang & Olufsen app.

MM

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Unless I got the history wrong, you have bought the majority of your kit from the after market. If so, there does come a time when it might benefit you to hire a B&O expert to go through your entire system and hold her/him accountable for results. Or maybe not. 

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Millemissen:

I can’t edit either, unfortunately ☹️

Unless it is already the case, why don’t you use the BeoWorld app on your iPad ? Editing, quoting and inserting images are much more user friendly than in a compatible browser.

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Hiort replied on Thu, Sep 12 2019 8:49 AM

"My dealer gave me an IR receiver (round one with a few buttons) that I plugged into the Core, witch was supposed to give me remote control. This I never got to work.. It only gave me the possibility to turn on/off the speakers."

The Core need to be a special version that can handle the IR commands fully. Have your dealer confirm if the Core is the correct version.

 

 

 

 

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mbolo01:
Millemissen:

 

I can’t edit either, unfortunately ☹️

 

 

Unless it is already the case, why don’t you use the BeoWorld app on your iPad ? Editing, quoting and inserting images are much more user friendly than in a compatible browser.

Sorry, no way!

I did try that long time ago, but quickly ditched it.

Might be a good solution on an iPhone - I prefer the browser version on my iPad.....

....even if I can’t edit (it’s not that big a problem).

N.B. Quoting and inserting pictures is no big deal on the iPad/Safari - I do that all the time.

MM

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