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frog Posted: Mon, Aug 12 2019 8:29 PM

https://radiotoday.co.uk/2019/08/bbc-to-pull-all-radio-services-from-tunein-uk-platform/

 

I hope that this doesn’t affect N.RADIO on my beosound 5!

while it doesn’t necessarily use tune-in, the requirement to sign in is worrying. 

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Sandyb replied on Mon, Aug 12 2019 8:58 PM
That’s terrible news!

What good is the inbuilt TuneIn on my A9 and BS2 now?
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For you as UK-citizen not much....if that was, what you listened to there.

For others - abroad - there will be no difference.

We will still be able to listen......at a ridiculously low bitrate - which is the reason why I never listen to BBC, anyway.

 

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frog replied on Mon, Aug 12 2019 11:39 PM

Sometimes it’s not about you.... 

the BBC access is pretty important to quite a few people 

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frog:

Sometimes it’s not about you....

the BBC access is pretty important to quite a few people

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frog:

Sometimes it’s not about you.... 

the BBC access is pretty important to quite a few people 

No. Its about the BBC and protecting their “unique” funding model (read antiquated, facist, protectionist model)

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frog:

Sometimes it’s not about you.... 

the BBC access is pretty important to quite a few people 

Easy now - I’d be just as disappointed, if that would happen in Denmark, where DR Radio is just as important to people there.

The biggest concern we should have here is, whether this is just a start - maybe that is what all national broadcasters will do soon.

And - by the way - I’d like to listen to BBC, but in a decent quality.

I think listening to radio stations from other countries should be part of our cultural exchange today......and should be supported by every country/governent

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PaulGiles replied on Tue, Aug 13 2019 9:21 AM
So I am guessing the solution would be for manufacturers to “simply” add BBC sounds as another source?

Sounds quite major, many many people use radio as alarms etc on multiroom systems for all brands
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frog replied on Tue, Aug 13 2019 9:46 AM

The problem is registration; the BBC want to know what you are listening to, and when - and there doesn’t seem to be an easy way with the current B&O solutions to add this. Yes, this may happen to other state broadcasters as they prepare to go subscription based.....

Maybe worth flagging to B&O?

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Guy replied on Tue, Aug 13 2019 10:06 AM

Millemissen:

And - by the way - I’d like to listen to BBC, but in a decent quality.

I presume that you've considered using a VPN (or DNS service like 'unblockus') to get the BBC's UK spec 320 kbps rather than the poor international 96 kbps service?

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vikinger replied on Tue, Aug 13 2019 10:15 AM

BBC have already denied another group of listeners by withdrawing their mp3 based broadcasts, which caused uproar a few years back. Most streamers simply cannot accommodate the BBC chosen streaming system.... it's OK via an iPad or the like where you can sign in.

The original linked article seems to suggest that you will still be able to use tunein if outside the U.K. If that's true, maybe VPN is the way forward to solve this and similar problems.

Graham

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moxxey replied on Tue, Aug 13 2019 10:21 AM

Millemissen:

And - by the way - I’d like to listen to BBC, but in a decent quality.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure TuneIn allows you to select between different stream options and you can choose a better BitRate. I've done this a few times when streaming Virgin radio.

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1990 replied on Tue, Aug 13 2019 10:52 AM

This quote hopefully means B&O is exempt too:

BBC Radio services via TuneIn on some devices, where it’s neither technically or economically practicable to demand a sign-in window, will continue for now. These include TuneIn on SONOS speakers and some older connected radios.”

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moxxey:

Millemissen:

And - by the way - I’d like to listen to BBC, but in a decent quality.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure TuneIn allows you to select between different stream options and you can choose a better BitRate. I've done this a few times when streaming Virgin radio.

 

These are the options I get via the TuneIn app (I suppose the use of my account in the B&O devices will use exactly the same as I choose there).

128 kbps isn’t something to be proud about!


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Stan replied on Tue, Aug 13 2019 9:06 PM

About TuneIn losing stations, get used to it.  I lost my beloved local station from TuneIn because it moved to be exclusive to "fm.com" (which the parent company owns both radio station and fm.com).  As streaming radio becomes more prevalent, more station owners want to maximize profit by monitizing all user data (our clicks and listening habits).  This wasn't the first to disappear, and I'm sure it will not be the last.

I tried using fm.com on my phone, then bluetooth to my Beo, but too much bother, and I don't want to give fm.com my clicks.  Goodbye favorite radio station.

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BEOVOX141 replied on Tue, Aug 13 2019 10:03 PM

Am I wrong in assuming the BBC channels are still available on old faithful... FM?

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moxxey replied on Wed, Aug 14 2019 10:44 AM

Millemissen:

128 kbps isn’t something to be proud about!

This is radio! I think your expectations are a little high here.

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moxxey:

Millemissen:

128 kbps isn’t something to be proud about!

This is radio! I think your expectations are a little high here.

This is what I get from the BV (V100 series) for Radio 3.......TuneIn is not the provider there.

A radio station with music deserves a bit more than 128 kpbs - imo.

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BEOVOX141 replied on Wed, Aug 14 2019 10:33 PM

moxxey:

Millemissen:

128 kbps isn’t something to be proud about!

This is radio! I think your expectations are a little high here.

Absolutely not! Unless of course you refer to NET radio!

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Sandyb replied on Thu, Aug 15 2019 9:13 AM

BBC Radio gone from TuneIn (via the B&O app) already this morning......

 

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mbee replied on Thu, Aug 15 2019 9:33 AM

Can someone explain me why ALL my radio stations on the B&O app are noted as “not supported” today? TuneIn is dead? On the Tunein app, there are only 4 of my favorites remaining...

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mbee replied on Thu, Aug 15 2019 9:36 AM

Update : after launching the radio on the A9, there is no more favorite on my tunein app, and impossible to find any radio station at all.

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mbee replied on Thu, Aug 15 2019 9:41 AM

I signed off and signed in again in TuneIn : my favorites are back but all are marked as “not available in your locality” I’m in France... others with this in France?

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mbolo01 replied on Thu, Aug 15 2019 9:44 AM
Looks like a TuneIn issue, only podcasts are available (at least in France)

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mbee replied on Thu, Aug 15 2019 9:46 AM

Ok, so it seems to be nationwide...

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Beobuddy replied on Thu, Aug 15 2019 9:53 AM

Same here. None of my favorites works here in Holland. 

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Ferdinand replied on Thu, Aug 15 2019 10:20 AM
Same here in Sweden where i listen to Dutch radio stations.

Really hope it is a temporarily issue, otherwise my BS1 becomes close to redundant as I mostly use it as kitchen radio.

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Same here.

Must be a TuneIn issue - if you go to the TuneIn app, you will only get podcasts.

All stations - including the BBC’s - play just as yesterday via the netradio service on my BV’s.

The BBC programmes play as usual from their website.

A matter of time - and waiting - for them/TuneIn to get on the right track again.

The reasons we probably won’t ever know.

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Dyssegaard replied on Thu, Aug 15 2019 10:29 AM
It is TuneIn that has a problem ref their status website:

http://status.tunein.com/

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So I guess we will have to keep that page open and refresh it.

First time ever, that I experienced that with TuneIn.

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Sandyb replied on Thu, Aug 15 2019 11:27 AM
Thanks for the update

Though a glimpse into the future- I had to (in my case), use the BBC Sounds app and AirPlay to my kitchen BS2.

That will be the scenario once BBC disappears from TuneIn properly. What use is the B&O app or touch to activate? (Well, it has some use, but the workflow changes/ gets worse)
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DMacri replied on Thu, Aug 15 2019 12:46 PM
Sandyb:

Thanks for the update

Though a glimpse into the future- I had to (in my case), use the BBC Sounds app and AirPlay to my kitchen BS2.

That will be the scenario once BBC disappears from TuneIn properly. What use is the B&O app or touch to activate? (Well, it has some use, but the workflow changes/ gets worse)

That’s the risk we have to face with a virtual world. Who’s to say that some of the streaming services will still be around in 10, 15, or 20 years? Some may make it and others may not. Still have my Physical media Big Smile

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Sandyb:
Thanks for the update

Though a glimpse into the future- I had to (in my case), use the BBC Sounds app and AirPlay to my kitchen BS2.

That will be the scenario once BBC disappears from TuneIn properly. What use is the B&O app or touch to activate? (Well, it has some use, but the workflow changes/ gets worse)

I am quite sure these issues has got anything to do with each other.

Despite the previously linked website saying that there is an issue generally, it seems that they have fixed it already.

I am using TuneIn on my Essence right now - playing as before.

All favourites are there - also the BBC’s.

(The TuneIn app also works)

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Sandyb:
Thanks for the update

Though a glimpse into the future- I had to (in my case), use the BBC Sounds app and AirPlay to my kitchen BS2.

That will be the scenario once BBC disappears from TuneIn properly. What use is the B&O app or touch to activate? (Well, it has some use, but the workflow changes/ gets worse)

I am quite sure these issues hasn’t got anything to do with each other.

Despite the previously linked website saying that there is an issue generally, it seems that they have fixed it already.

I am using TuneIn on my Essence right now - playing as before.

All favourites are there - also the BBC’s.

(The TuneIn app also works)

MM

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Please ignore the first of these posts - due to mistyping!

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mbolo01 replied on Thu, Aug 15 2019 1:12 PM
Millemissen:

Despite the previously linked website saying that there is an issue generally, it seems that they have fixed it already.

Correct, back to normal now

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Hiort replied on Thu, Aug 15 2019 9:16 PM
Here in Sweden all Tunein station I have suddenly do not work. A voice just say that station is not supported....

 

 

 

 

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Dillen replied on Thu, Aug 15 2019 9:27 PM

Oh dear.
Somebody did something somewhere.

Sorry, but I cannot help smiling at all the obstacles people are searching out for themselves - just to hear the music they like to hear.
This case may be about radio, but the general strategy seems to be the same.
It's as if the more technical things, links, wireless thingys, iOS-versions, routers, streaming services, firewalls and whatdoIknow, the better.
Now, because someone somewhere, god knows who and where, flipped a switch or clicked a certain place on a screen with a mouse, or some
service changed their policies, you can no longer hear music.

For gods sake. Put a record on or load a tape and press PLAY!
Can't be simpler - and you're in total control!

Martin.

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sonavor replied on Thu, Aug 15 2019 9:29 PM

Dillen:

For gods sake. Put a record on or load a tape and press PLAY!
Can't be simpler - and you're in total control!

Martin.

Love it

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frog replied on Thu, Aug 15 2019 9:30 PM

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