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Calvin
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Calvin posted on Mon, Jun 10 2019 1:32 AM

I feel somewhat silly asking this, especially as I'm in my 30s and feel that this should seem obvious (new tech) but I was thinking about getting something to take out on the balcony and you'd think the current lineup should be the go to. Then I see that it's all bluetooth speakers which means turn it on, also bring a phone, link them, select something, hit play and then have two devices to take in. And lose music if someone phones you.

Contrast to if I go online and get an old beolit or similar portable system from the 80s/90s. The it's "hit play" and that's really it.

I get that portable bluetooth speakers are popular but there's a lot to be said for physical media. What is the most modern all in one thing that B&O made? Ie not reliant on a subscription service on your network or a phone that you want to leave unharmed battery-wise.

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TWG replied on Tue, Jun 11 2019 8:38 AM

I agree with two solutions alreay mentioned:

- Beosound 3 with your favorite music simply put on SD cards.
Try to get an old (and working!) Beosound 3. Unfortunately they wheren't very reliable but in our forum are some very good help tips to repair the top panel if it stops working.

- Beolit 17 plus a dedicated audio player connected to the aux-in port. It could lay nicely on top of the Beolit 17 and nobody will bother you with calls and messages. :)


Luckily the portable audio player market is offering very good devices since the rise of "High res Audio".

For example:
- Pioneer XDP series (you can find XDP-100 very cheap today.
- Sony ZX series (ZX1, ZX2, ZX300 ...)
- Sony NW Series
- Sony WM1a
- Astell & Kern
- Fiio
- ...


The Sony and Pioneer don't need any aditional software, they work drag&drop on you Mac & PC.
I don't know about the Astell & Kern yet.

They all play MP3 files, too.

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Jeff replied on Tue, Jun 11 2019 3:57 PM

I have an iPhone 4 that I'd still be using as a phone except when I changed carriers it wasn't compatible with their data network. I use it as an iPod touch, connected to a Beolit 15 via Blue Tooth, for mobile audio. I load it with MP3 files, and can also do Spotify if I'm near my network.

I think a similar setup would work, not sure if the Beolit 17 has Blue Tooth but it it does, and it can apparently charge the phone too, would work well if you do something similar. Sadly, integrated tape/radio/CD player boomboxes are rare and no really good ones seem to exist today. Welcome to the postmodern stereo world.

The only thing I'd question is your first bullet point about B&O being built to last, perhaps not as true now as in the past. Ask anyone with a Beolit 12 who needs a battery about longevity.

Good luck finding a solution that works for you. I've been pretty happy with my repurposed iPhone and a Beolit 15.

Jeff

I'm afraid I'm recovering from the BeoVirus. Sad

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Yep. BL17 as mentioned will charge phone too.
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Calvin replied on Wed, Jun 12 2019 1:55 AM

Yes, the BS3 I remember that now, it was around the time of the recession so I lost touch of what the offerings were then. I've put in a bid on one on eBay!

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Calvin:

  • I want something B&O because I know it should last, and I know that it will look special, rather than some I picked up for $50 when I was in a store buying lightbulbs or kitchen roll.

The Beosound 3 is not really an item built to last (problems with touchpad and battery which is replaceable but not easily. Sensitive to modern MP3 files…). Sound wise it may not represent the B&O sound experience either…

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Calvin replied on Fri, Aug 9 2019 10:50 PM

I’ve had it a few weeks now and it’s a pretty neat little unit, maybe there’s a “survivors paradox” with the touch pads (the ones that work still are the good ones). But if a pain writing the flash cards to be compatible but now I have a half dozen genre albums.

For the most part my favourite things are that I can hang it easily which is nice in the garden but also that it’s metal, not the usual black thin cloth, so I don’t need to worry about it as much, especially with kids around. Looks cool as well!

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I remember in 1992 seeing the Wim Wenders movie "Until the End of the World" wherein it showed music on something similar to an SD card. I remember thinking how amazingly futuristic it was! The same was true of the original BeoSound 2 with its use of the SD card. This seemed to make up for B&O missing the whole walkman/diskman era. Then, the iPod craze erupted and the BeoSound 2 with no display seemed so ancient.

Still, I like the idea of having favorite albums loaded onto individual SD cards and having them in an Hermès porcelain tray for guests to fish out. Since you're already loading music unto SDs, an original BeoSound 2 could be nice to have also. I would like to see pics of a BeoSound 2 laying on the top tray of a BeoLit 15/17 or next to a BeoPlay A1.

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Calvin replied on Sun, Aug 11 2019 3:24 AM

The BS2 was actually my first every B&O product! £500 I think it was back in 2004? At the time I actually had a 6GB hard drive Archos mp3 player which I 'downgraded' to the 512MB flash drive because the B&O was so awesome looking, plus the sound. A friend of mine has it on permanent loan and I now usually just listen to audiobooks/podcasts when I'm out and about so I don't really need a music player on my travels, though I'd recommend one as something a B&O fan might want to buy, try out and sell on after a few months if just for the experience of owning a bit of history.

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TWG:
  agree with two solutions alreay mentioned:

Luckily the portable audio player market is offering very good devices since the rise of "High res Audio".

For example:
- Astell & Kern
I don't know about the Astell & Kern yet.

They all play MP3 files, too.

I thought I had already posted on this? Failure to load? Ah well.....

I work away a lot and also when not working sit on a beach a lot too.

I have invested in an Astell & Kern AK70 mk2 with a Beoplay P6 for my Camp room and a P2 when on vacation.

The A&K with a microSD 400GB (and 64GB internal) will put about 75% of all my FLAC-ripped CDs. It is an excellent sounding, robust (built like a palm-sized tank) and compact player. Highly recommend it.

I find it remarkable however, that in terms of form-factor it is very similar in many ways to the BeoSound 6. Ditto listening to my old BeoSound 2, the sound was and still is excellent and I think many were too quick to wax lyrical about the high-capacity (but naff sounding) iPod and its user interface.

PDP's seem to have come full circle and are packing very good electronics (DACs) with prices and specs ever-escalating to the moon like over-ear earphones have of recent with many PDPs + Ear Cans costing orders of magnitude higher that most of our B&O gear at home! 

 

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Svenni replied on Sun, Aug 11 2019 11:39 AM

I'd look for a Beoplay A2 Active and an iPod, and maybe a portable battery to power both for much longer.

Beoplay A2
Beoplay Earset
Beoplay H6 (Gen 2)
Beoplay S3 (pair)
Beovox CX50 (2 pairs)

Beovox RL 6000

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