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Manbearpig
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Manbearpig posted on Sat, May 18 2019 3:39 PM

Dear members,

I have trouble with my newly acquired Beosystem 3. I have connected it via Masterlink for testing purposes to a Beosound 9000. Works fine. Also a DVD2 is connected. Also works, although not the Beo4 control, but I have already read here on the forum that a Scart only connection apparently is not enough. I'll try to get a HDMI cable. Much better anyway.

My main problem right now is that the internal TV tuner of the Beosystem 3 (digital DVB-C) doesn't seem to find any programs. The Beosystem 3 is connected to an old Beovision Avant via HDMI to Scart converter. But that probably isn't the problem since DVD is working and I do get a picture. The Beosystem just doesn't seem to find any channels. However, the Humax receiver that I used before did.

Any ideas what could be the cause? I haven't found anything in the manual or on the internet so far and am getting quite frustrated.

Greetings,

Kai

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BEOVOX141
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Is the DVB/C tuner enabled ?

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Using the wrong antenna port, maybe?

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

Manbearpig
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Thanks for the answers, guys. Please see picture for connections. I've also tried the analogue input with the same result. TV is enabled. Otherwise I wouldn't get to the program set up menu, would I?

One thing is that I do not know what screen to select. B&O only allows me to pick Beovisions 4 and 12. So that is not correct. Non-B&O is not correct either. However, that's what I opted for lacking a suitable alternative. And I put it to standard in the subsequent selection menu.

I have two Beosystems 3 that actually behave the same. A defect is highly unlikely given that. And compatibility with the old Avant RF probably too because I am able to get the mnu on screen and can watch DVDs. I just can't seem to tune in TV programs, which is probably an issue with the Beosystem 3 itself rather than with the screen.

Cheers,

 

Kai

 

 


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HI Again

Please goto (MENU,MENU) DTV- CHANNELS-TUNING-INPUTS- Which of the tuners are available and enabled?

 

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I don't seem to get into the service menu. Neither menu-menu nor 0-0-go seem to work. Any ideas? Kai

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DMacri replied on Tue, May 21 2019 11:16 AM
Manbearpig:

I don't seem to get into the service menu. Neither menu-menu nor 0-0-go seem to work. Any ideas? Kai

Press the menu button twice so the settings menu appears, navigate to options and then press 0, 0, Go within 3 seconds.

You will follow a similar path for the advanced menu. Menu twice, navigate to options and press Red and Go within 3 seconds.

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Thanks very much. This has ultimately helped to at least get to the menu. I now get the following screen. Is this informative for my problem of no TV reception?

Cheers,

Kai

 

 


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You are in the wrong place!

Start by following the sequence in my previous posting. The tuners are enabled or disabled in the normal menu structure, no need for the device menu. The (MENU,MENU) simply means you need to get to the main setup menu, if you are already in the DTV mode you will need to press menu twice!

Do a screenshot when you get to the destination! It should look something like this:

Manbearpig
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Thanks again for the answer, Probably I'm too naive to understand, but how to I get to DTV mode? Please recall that I am using an old Avant CRT connected via DVI to HADMI cable and HDMI to Scart converter. I have tried (menu, menu) in all sorts of places but it never seemed to do anything for me.

The problem probably is that when I press menu once, I get to the menu of the Beovision Avant. On this menu I select V.Aux, to which the Beosystem 3 is connected. As soon as I press menu again, I'm out of the menu because the Avant is still receiving the signal and not only the Beosystem. I don't know whether there is a way for the Beosystem to start the Avant so that I can put the Avant in option 0? That would probably resolve the issue and get me one step closer to the solution.

Cheers,

Kai

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Now I am @ loss...

Your BS 3 is a complete television, the only thing missing is the display, and I was under the assumption you had hooked up the AVANT as a simple display?

The tuner I am referring to is the one built into the BS3, at this point in time there is no way you will have the analog tuner in the AVANT pick up anything!(tecnically there is a way, but lets cross that bridge another day)

PS Cover the IR receiver on the AVANT  with a heavy towel, its located left of the little red dot matrix display, that way you will only operate the BS3

Your BEO 4 could have a SAT button instead of a DTV, same thing though Smile

 

Am I understanding you correctly ?

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Now I'm getting closer. Your "you are in the wrong place" comment combined with the SAT button did the trick. The manual and navigation are really misleading when using the Avant just as a screen as you say (that is precisely what I do). There is a search option in the regular menu. However, I do need to put the Beosystem 3 in DTV mode first and then there is another search option there. This one seems to work. Don't ask me how, because I was just randomly pressing buttons trying to change from radio mode to TV mode (both seem to have distinct menus?) and get somewhat close to the place you pointed out, but eventually I ended up right where I wanted to be and am at least able to tune in radio and TV stations now.

Part of the problem is probably that the screen is cut at the edges. Therefore, some of the information is always missing. What would be the appropriate resolution setting in the Beosystem 3 for an RF 16:9 Avant?

Another question: should I also register the Beosystem as SAT then (I have now configured the AV input as V.AUX)? Would that allow me to turn on screen and Beosystem simultaneously?

Thanks again for your help. If you know how to do it, it's simple. But I haven't found anything on the net and therefore this was quite tricky...

Cheers,

Kai

 

P.S.: TV reception works perfectly now. Good picture!

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Hi again

A few questions before i can properly guide you into this wonderful piece of equipment.

Are the sound playing through the AVANT speakers or do you have a speaker setup?

Do you realize you can hook up TWO displays to the BS3? This is actually the cool part the FORMAT 0 will close the curtains on the first display transfer the image to the second display and open the curtains. As much as i love the AVANT CRT it doesn't really utilize the power of the BS3. Suggestion: Get a cheap 1080 non smart TV and hook it up to the primary output (it could actually be a 1080 PC monitor) and then the AVANT to the secondary output. FORMAT 0 will then switch between the two of them.

One way of getting control of both units without the remote controlling both is simply setting the AVANT into link mode, I believe the details are in the user manual on the B&O website.

Turning OFF both units is simply a matter of keeping the power button pressed for a couple of seconds, while turning ON is tricky, remember the BS3 cannot control the AVANT it simply provides a video stream.

Your resolution issue is most likely due the SCART converter, Did you try 576i/p? 

No B&O setup is far from simple, especially due to the notorious lack of proper, typenumber based documentation. Take your AVANT for one it really could be anything. It exists in literally 100s of permutations. What type do you have ?

Keep asking questions, its the only way to learn ;-)

Edit: From you screenshot I am guessing its an RF model 32" properly DVD? 

Edit II The FORMAT commands 1,2,3 allows you to adjust the picture size on the AVANT.

Edit III The best remote for the AVANT is actually the BL1000 Sound and picture adjustment are primary functions no menus! . Much faster than the BEO4, and belive it or not it will also operate the BS3 just as easily.

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Hey again,

thanks for all of your help. Actually, the solution is already quite satisfactory now, but there are a couple of things that can still be improved.

To answer your questions:

- Many speakers linked to Beosystem 3, no speakers linked to the Avant. However, can I still use internal Avant speakers as center speaker and if so, how?

- Type numer 8430

- Two displays sounds really wicked, but my living room is already filled with speakers. I will therefore only use the Avant.

I have now tried SAT (STB) as an option on the Avant for connecting the Beosystem 3 and set the Avant to option 1. This works nicely in TV mode. However, although I have linked the DVD 2 via Scart and HDMI to the Beosystem 3 now and registered all connections in the menu of the Beosystem 3, I can't seem to control the DVD2 via the Beo4. Any idea why that is?

I have found out that I can change between TV and radio by using DTV (SAT) and then pressing menu - 0 - 0 - Go. However, even in radio mode the screen always stays on. Can I turn the screen off in radio mode with the radio still playing somehow?

Thanks again!

Cheers,

Kai

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Hi

One of the pieces I have yet to acquire is the DVD 2, which means I honestly dont know anything about it!

But I am not convinced the double connection will work as you expect it, since there technically are TWO different signals in the BS3 an analog and a digital path. For kicks try disconnecting the jumper HDMI cable, you will still have DVT although in SD only.

The red key should switch to radio as well, where did you find the menu 00 go info?

The BS3 and most BVs have a "picture mute" functionality, all you have to do is adding the P MUTE to the BEO4 list menu. Might even work on the AVANT cant remember to be honest, and my AVANT RF DVD is currently relocating. 

There is a Picture in Picture mode as well and that command does work on the AVANT.

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