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Hiort replied on Fri, May 3 2019 6:11 AM
Aussie Michael:

That dutch site reads that the Mk3 is with google home. So i wonder if it was waiting for a software update but there all the time (if it can be engaged like that)

That would make more sense than releasing yet another version of the A9.

 

 

 

 

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moxxey replied on Fri, May 3 2019 2:39 PM

Hiort:

That would make more sense than releasing yet another version of the A9.

Which also rules it out as forthcoming new product the dealer was enthusing about.

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Ferdinand replied on Tue, May 7 2019 10:52 AM
A9 mkIV

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https://hypebeast.com/2019/5/bang-olufsen-beoplay-a9-google-assistant

Who buys the 3rd gen, then?

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Sandyb replied on Tue, May 7 2019 12:11 PM
Ugh, more obligatory Google Assistant...

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Sandyb replied on Tue, May 7 2019 12:13 PM
Duels:

I was visualising something like the essence remote but with a screen to show the artwork for the song playing on, say, Deezer or the radio station logo.

It is I believe like a giant Essence remote. Screen I believe is a horizontal strip akin to that of the BS3500
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Millemissen:

Places where Google Assist have not launched

Beovision Eclipse, Beolab 20, Beolab 17, Beosound 1 Google assist, Beoplay M3, Beoplay H6

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...and people who don't want a d@#% microphone in their bedroom!  At least the Gen3 *claims* to do only room correction with the mic -- though whether or not it's good enough to actually measure or is just automating the 3-position switch (wall, corner, freespace) is a good question.  Cripes, you can't even run an A9 freestanding without giving it an internet connection.  I would make a ruleset for my router... [Edit OK, yes, Bluetooth transmissions rather than AirPlay you could take it off your network, but who in their right mind still uses BT for audio, Qualcomm employees excepted?]

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Emil Jensen:

Millemissen:

Places where Google Assist have not launched

OK - you may be right on that.

However, you don’t need to use the assistant and the mic can be turned off.....and maybe sometime soon the assistant also launches, where you/the potential buyer are right now.

Besides - I suppose, that the 3rd gen soon will be obsolete anyway.

(Personal note: I’d go for the 2nd gen......which still has support for Spotify Connect).

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TWG replied on Tue, May 7 2019 5:14 PM

Sandyb:
Duels:

I was visualising something like the essence remote but with a screen to show the artwork for the song playing on, say, Deezer or the radio station logo.

It is I believe like a giant Essence remote. Screen I believe is a horizontal strip akin to that of the BS3500

Hopefully Bang & Olufsen has decided wisely to use a good LCD instead of an OLED-display in the upcoming remote. Longevity of OLED based displays still doesn't seem to be on par with LCDs.

I'm looking forward to seeing the soundbars and the remote!

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moxxey replied on Tue, May 7 2019 5:21 PM

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A9 mkIV

Utter utter madness. If I just bought the very recently announced 3rd generation, I'd be more than a little cheesed off B&O was casually announcing a '4th generation' a few months later.

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Hiort replied on Tue, May 7 2019 5:26 PM
moxxey:

Utter utter madness. If I just bought the very recently announced 3rd generation, I'd be more than a little cheesed off B&O was casually announcing a '4th generation' a few months later.

Agree. Very strange decision.

 

 

 

 

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moxxey:

Ferdinand:
A9 mkIV

Utter utter madness. If I just bought the very recently announced 3rd generation, I'd be more than a little cheesed off B&O was casually announcing a '4th generation' a few months later.

Conspiracy theorists would probably argue that dancing with Google is more important than pissing a few A9 customers. My daughter talks to her Google Mini more than she does me and uses her A8 as a phone charger. 

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moxxey:

, I'd be more than a little cheesed off B&O was casually announcing a '4th generation' a few months later.

None the less, they are!

What will you do about it?

Do you want/need that goofy assistent?

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Earle replied on Tue, May 7 2019 5:54 PM

Did anyone else see the leak for the BV Harmony Gen 2 for December?

Ha, just kidding. But yes, I too cannot wait for more deets on the soundbar. 

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mbee replied on Tue, May 7 2019 5:57 PM

Wow!! B&O just beat its own record of the quickest EOL product ever! I'm not sure the A9 mkIII was already available at all dealers...

Strange decision to label it "mkIV" instead of "mkIII with Google Assistant", as there is nothing more than that. The BS2 is available with and without GA, and it's not labelled different marks... Maybe B&O is completely lost with marketing...

@Moxxey : any A9 is compatible with Chromecast, so if you have a Google Home Mini (always discounted at €30), you can do the same as a MKIV A9 (but ok, you have a separated Google Home Mini, not the full integration).

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I wonder, if we will see the four small quick access/favourite buttons from the BS2/GA on the A9/GA too?

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Hiort replied on Tue, May 7 2019 9:21 PM
This maybe explains why I saw a Swedish dealer having a clearance sale of the A9 bronze third generation with around 15% off.

 

 

 

 

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Hiort replied on Tue, May 7 2019 9:23 PM
Millemissen:

I wonder, if we will see the four small quick access/favourite buttons from the BS2/GA on the A9/GA too?

MM

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The My Buttons on the BRone do the same Smile

I never use the favorite buttons on my BS1 GA

 

 

 

 

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Hiort:
Millemissen:

I wonder, if we will see the four small quick access/favourite buttons from the BS2/GA on the A9/GA too?

MM

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The My Buttons on the BRone do the same Smile

I never use the favorite buttons on my BS1 GA

I am sorry, but I’ll have to correct you there.

These buttons definitely are different (read: more) than the MyButtons on a BROne.

How they work, is explained by Christian in this video:

https://youtu.be/RUVj0c6rIcU

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Google is all over B&O (-products) these days.

I wonder, when we will see a Google Home/Nest Hub with built-in B&O speakers 😉

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Hiort replied on Wed, May 8 2019 6:35 AM
Millemissen:

I am sorry, but I’ll have to correct you there.

These buttons definitely are different (read: more) than the MyButtons on a BROne.

How they work, is explained by Christian in this video:

https://youtu.be/RUVj0c6rIcU

MM

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Fully understand the difference between the the shortcut buttons and the BRone mybuttons especially since I have a BS1 GA as I mentioned.

What I meant was that the BRone buttons could trigger the shortcuts in the event the New A9 does not have any shortcut buttons. The shortcuts must then be programmed in some other way than using a button, maybe through the app.

Time will tell.

 

 

 

 

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1990 replied on Wed, May 8 2019 7:36 AM

Here’s the new A9 with the four Google dots featured in the middle. My guess: the GVA-Version wasn’t ready to market at the point they ran out of the A9 Mk2 stock. Hence the Mk3 “in between” model.

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TWG replied on Wed, May 8 2019 7:53 AM

Dear Bang & Olufsen: Just do the right marketing and let your customers choose.

"Hey Bang & Olufsen customer, you're welcome to choose whether you want our great speakers/audio systems with or without an assistant!"

Choose from:

- BS 1
- BS 2
- A9
- ...

(EDIT):
Bang & Olufsen can benefit in 3 ways from offering/marketing both A9 (MK3 and MK4) simultaneously:
- Easier competition with fast changing technology
- customers can decide weather they want a bug (Google Assistant) in their home 
- prevent damaging the brand and prevent the "Damn; I just bought it a few weeks ago!" reaction. 


btw:
Googles roadmap seems to affect Nest users:
"Nest" thermostats, cam and protect will work until August 31, 2019 and than the "Works with Nest" program is retired. 
https://www.engadget.com/2019/05/07/google-to-end-works-with-nest/?utm_campaign=homepage&utm_medium=internal&utm_source=dl

That's one of the reasons why I don't want my (smart) home to be dependent from Apple, Google etc. ... 

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1990:

Here’s the new A9 with the four Google dots featured in the middle. My guess: the GVA-Version wasn’t ready to market at the point they ran out of the A9 Mk2 stock. Hence the Mk3 “in between” model.

So it is a different product to Mk3

Well it’s a Mk3 now with Google Assistant
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To stand in defence of B&O, has this situation really arisen by the unrelenting and rapid shifts in technology and consumer demand? B&O is very small company.
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Sandyb replied on Wed, May 8 2019 9:28 AM

You can turn off the microphone in these things though I guess.

They won't offer two versions though, one with and and one without - that's not going to happen.They are not going to manufacture 2 versions of every product.

I haven't used one of the newer GA enabled versions , but what I object to is being forced to sign in to Google in the setup process.

As for smart home ecosystems, I agree, its an evolving mess right now.

I personally wouldn't bother chasing my tail to build a "perfect smart home", what with stuff dropping in / out of ecosystem functionality, data and privacy issues etc etc.

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moxxey replied on Wed, May 8 2019 10:08 AM

Hiort:
This maybe explains why I saw a Swedish dealer having a clearance sale of the A9 bronze third generation with around 15% off.

I've also seem some heavy discounts on the MK2.

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Available end May

https://bocopenhagen.dk/beoplay-a9-mk3-vs-beoplay-a9-mk4/

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Hiort replied on Thu, May 9 2019 6:49 AM

Millemissen:

It will be interesting to learn how the active room compensation will add to the sound.

Also, I noted that nothing is mentioned about any "shortcut buttons" so maybe that is not a feature that will be available for the A9.

The logo is a nice addition I think . I just wished I has reason to buy an A9 Smile

Hope that Deezer get their act together and get the service on Google Home for the nordic countries.That will increase my usage of Google Assistant.

 

 

 

 

 

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Jonathan replied on Sat, May 11 2019 4:15 AM

Just to add a point re the A9 Mk4 BS1 BS2, there are some countries where GVA is illegal so this is why there are the two versions

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w5bno123 replied on Sat, May 11 2019 1:06 PM
Jonathan:

Just to add a point re the A9 Mk4 BS1 BS2, there are some countries where GVA is illegal so this is why there are the two versions

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And Amazon can’t be seen to be selling a product with GVA built in when they have Alexa...
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When is the BL3 replacement coming ?
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Is the BL17 not the replacement for it?
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w5bno123 replied on Wed, May 15 2019 1:48 PM
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Is the BL17 not the replacement for it?

Yep, despite it looking more like the BL4000.
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Jon replied on Wed, May 15 2019 6:11 PM

I wonder when the new H9s will be released, someone sent me a link to this Taiwanese regulatory approval cert a couple of days ago but not seen any mention of them on Beoworld 🤔

Bang & Olufsen Beoplay H9 3rd Gen

NCC CCAF19LP051AT0

https://fccid.io/NCC/CCAF19LP051AT0

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vlohjr1 replied on Wed, May 15 2019 6:26 PM
Jon:

I wonder when the new H9s will be released, someone sent me a link to this Taiwanese regulatory approval cert a couple of days ago but not seen any mention of them on Beoworld 🤔

Bang & Olufsen Beoplay H9 3rd Gen NCC CCAF19LP051AT0 https://fccid.io/NCC/CCAF19LP051AT0

+24h
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Jon replied on Wed, May 15 2019 6:27 PM

vlohjr1:

+24h

ohhhh exciting!! 

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If you do a little bit of Googeling then you'll see that the 3rd gen will have aptX

Karel.

 


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garethr replied on Thu, May 16 2019 10:44 AM

They're now available for next day delivery at Amazon.co.uk. Apparently they're now called "H9 3rd Gen"

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