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What is going on with B&O’s current TV lineup?

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Hero71
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Hero71 posted on Tue, Feb 26 2019 7:09 PM

I’ve been keeping an eye out for B&O’s TV line up for the past 8 months, ever since I overheard a rumour that B&O will most likely stop making TV’s. It’s no secret that shares dropped almost a quarter by the end of last year and the company has been struggling keeping up with the pace the competition is refreshing lineups and adding smart features.

I’m not sure if there is any truth to this rumour but the fact that the lineup has remained unchanged and is limited to two models for this long is not very reassuring.

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Jeff replied on Thu, Apr 4 2019 5:28 PM

I think the Eclipse needs to get an award for being the single B&O product that has produced the most posts on Beoworld in perhaps ever. If controversy made a product great, it'd be among the greatest.

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Another way of evaluating this thread is that those who DONT have an Eclipse would seem to want to share their perspective on it; whether price, colour, shape or provenance. I’ve not seen smell yet, but I’m sure it’s coming.

The reality is, it’s not made in Struer, it’s not all aluminium and glass, and yet it is miles ahead of any prior BV for picture, sound, smart, integration and reliability. As a result that must make it bad - right?

And lastly, which LG product are we comparing it against? Last I looked, they have zero comparable.

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Wow, that's a triumph of logic!

Why would anyone who doesn't like it be a owner?Confused

Or are you trying to play the "you only don't like it because you can't afford it" card? - in which case you're wrong again!

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Jeff replied on Thu, Apr 4 2019 6:31 PM

Puncher:

Wow, that's a triumph of logic!

Why would anyone who doesn't like it be a owner?Confused

Or are you trying to play the "you only don't like it because you can't afford it" card? - in which case you're wrong again!

Plus it's pretty early in its lifespan to be commenting on reliability.

I don't think any comments on smell would properly be directed at the TV. Just sayin. Wink

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You're falling into the same self inflicted trap.

Saying it doesn't tick all your (in my case, mine) boxes is not saying its bad, just not for me.

Why do you guys continually over generalise and project?

As I said above, despite getting dragged down a rabbit hole over picture quality, my principal issue is I don't love the design. 

I had a 14 from launch, before it went back, so I know what bad truly is.

Not everyone rationalises the price premium the same way and reaches the same conclusion. The specs are good, the heritage feel is less so.

Matters to some, less to others.

Why that should prove so desperately controversial is beyond me - its not as if I;m alone in wondering where the future classics are in the current product portfolio. In fact, its probably the most oft repeated critique of the company, alongside software issues.

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Puncher:

Wow, that's a triumph of logic!

Why would anyone who doesn't like it be a owner?Confused

Or are you trying to play the "you only don't like it because you can't afford it" card? - in which case you're wrong again!

Well, we can add clumsy sarcasm (soon you'll be complaining about its smell) now to todays dogmatic sloganeering (There. Is. No. Alternative!).

And yes, repetition of the "those who don't like it should really go and try it".....

 

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Jeff:
Plus it's pretty early in its lifespan to be commenting on reliability.

 

NOOOP. You'll find the highest percentage of B&O issues / care / warranty are early in the life of the product and has been this way for 10-15 years.

 

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BEOVOX141:

Millemissen:
When cooperating with LG is the best way to make a current BV, I see no reason why not to do it

Out of pure curiosity: Would you consider the Eclipse architecture better or worse than the traditional Beosystem approach?

And would you agree, being an Avant owner, that a  Beosystem 5 is more or less already there?

No, not necsessarily. but it is the best a company like B&O can do under the current circumstances.

So, the question is actually irrelevant.

 

I would not call it a BeoSystem (5) - maybe not to confuse those, who see a BSys as something with video processing built in.

There is also no tuner/no tuners - which again may be an advantage, because the world of tuners are also rapidly changing.

By the way, tuners and tuner solutions aren’t/weren’t house-build in Struer.

Maybe the name Sound Center is more correct, though not describing the full functionallity, that is necsessary for a cooperative solution with a tv company like LG..............that name probably is thought out in the marketing department of B&O.

I guess (as far as a version with built-in speakers is concerned) what is needed, is well described here:

https://www.tonmeister.ca/wordpress/2017/09/15/bo-tech-its-not-just-a-soundbar/

A standalone ‘BSys5’/Sound Center solution, that is supposed to work with a stock tv (of any brand) would have to be different, since there can be no easy way to make a fluent control interface for both parts.

After all, controlling a BV Eclipse is pretty much the same as controlling older BV’s as far as UI and remote control is concerned.

P.S. ‘Avant and BeoSystem 5’.....the system there is a BSys4-based version - it has a version number, which I don’t recall right now

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@ Millemissen

BSys4 is Discontinued, no longer found on B & O's price list. PUC codes are also no longer updated.

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Peter Pan:

@ Millemissen

BSys4 is Discontinued, no longer found on B & O's price list. PUC codes are also no longer updated.

Sure, but why do you tell me that?

PUC codes are directly downloadable - now as before.

MM

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MM

PUC codes are not updated to new products as before. Try it.

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Hallo Hero71

Whatever we hope for, we cannot expect B&O to afford to launch more BeoVision TVs.

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Does Peter Pan really have the crystal ball he claims to have.....or is that just a mock-up 🙄

MM

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Peter Pan:

MM

PUC codes are not updated to new products as before. Try it.

What is there to try?

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

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