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What is going on with B&O’s current TV lineup?

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Hero71
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Hero71 posted on Tue, Feb 26 2019 7:09 PM

I’ve been keeping an eye out for B&O’s TV line up for the past 8 months, ever since I overheard a rumour that B&O will most likely stop making TV’s. It’s no secret that shares dropped almost a quarter by the end of last year and the company has been struggling keeping up with the pace the competition is refreshing lineups and adding smart features.

I’m not sure if there is any truth to this rumour but the fact that the lineup has remained unchanged and is limited to two models for this long is not very reassuring.

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BEOVOX141
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Millemissen:
(Your BV12 has a genuine multi channel audio solution built in.....which makes THE difference).

Actually no, the audio is handled by either a BSys3 or 4, It does have powered speakers though!

 

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moxxey:

Emil Jensen:

Could anyone show me the same setup for a lower price? When I bought I looked a lot after alternatives, but could not find any?

To be fair, you could easily buy pre-loved BL3s or similar, using the TV as a centre. Perhaps with a cheap BL11.This is effectively what I have with my BV12-65 (where the TV centre speaker is very basic).

Hallo Moxxey,

I don't really understand how this is an answer on my question?

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Puncher:

It's a good TV (not the best) - with the best sound. The relative value is in the buyers head. Some think it's a good deal, many ex-B&O TV owners don't - It is what it is!

I agree with that Puncher,

I just have a hard time seeing what alternatives ex-B&O TV owners have, without degrading the TV experience 

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@ Moxxey and BEOVOX141

Now, don’t tell me that you really thought that I don’t know that the BV12 ‘relies’ on an external system - either the BSys 3 or 4.

Besides, you both know that the whole package was sold as a.....BeoVision 12.

 

Com’on give me an example of how connecting BeoLab speakers to a regular stock tv could possibly provide a solution like that of the BeoVision 12.....I am not talking ‘design’, but functionallity, usability.

 

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I see Hero71 is keeping his head down!Laughing

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Use a Beosys (any)  that is what it was built for, and that is what I do.

The interesting part about the LG OLED or Samsung  QLED for that matter isn't the "soon to be outdated" smart-TV functionality, but rather the performance of the actual screen. Which you can easily access using a simple HDMI.

Why The Eclipse simply didn't stick to the "monitor only" approach is beyond me, most could have been taken from the Avant directly. Actually, the sound Center reminds me a lot about an Avant engine, lees the video. That way you could use LGs Oled or ANY other TV of your choice. You could even upgrade.

The Eclipse architecture is just too convoluted with sound, control and video going left right up and down. And although the sound is impressive, it NOT "stand-alone speakers" impressive.

 

 

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Emil Jensen:

I don't really understand how this is an answer on my question?

I'm confused - you said you had a look at 'all the options' before you considered the Eclipse?

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Millemissen:

Com’on give me an example of how connecting BeoLab speakers to a regular stock tv could possibly provide a solution like that of the BeoVision 12.....I am not talking ‘design’, but functionallity, usability.

You can't, you need a receiver or similar. But the point is, a) the options exist and b) they aren't hugely expensive. ie. compared to a £10K+ Eclipse.

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moxxey:

Emil Jensen:

Could anyone show me the same setup for a lower price? When I bought I looked a lot after alternatives, but could not find any?

To be fair, you could easily buy pre-loved BL3s or similar, using the TV as a centre. Perhaps with a cheap BL11.This is effectively what I have with my BV12-65 (where the TV centre speaker is very basic).

Sorry if I misunderstand,

But do you suggest that I instead of buying a Eclipse I could have bought used speakers like the BL3 and BL11,

How is that helping me with an alternative to the Eclipse?

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moxxey:

Millemissen:

Com’on give me an example of how connecting BeoLab speakers to a regular stock tv could possibly provide a solution like that of the BeoVision 12.....I am not talking ‘design’, but functionallity, usability.

You can't, you need a receiver or similar. But the point is, a) the options exist and b) they aren't hugely expensive. ie. compared to a £10K+ Eclipse.

There is always an option, a solution.

The question however, is how good is it?

Some might see that as sufficient and might be pleased, others not....I wouldn’t, being used to the integrated solutions from B&O for decades.

Ask the Eclipse owners, if they are pleased.

The question of costs is - as always with the B&O stuff, now and before - a different matter.

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I'm going to ask PP to pop by with some viable WISA solutions!

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Millemissen:

There is always an option, a solution.

The question however, is how good is it?

Some might see that as sufficient and might be pleased, others not....I wouldn’t, being used to the integrated solutions from B&O for decades.

Ask the Eclipse owners, if they are pleased.

The question of costs is - as always with the B&O stuff, now and before - a different matter.

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

Eclipse is perhaps the most Satisfying B&O product I’ve had since the BC2. Really!

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mawheele:
Millemissen:

 

There is always an option, a solution.

 

The question however, is how good is it?

 

Some might see that as sufficient and might be pleased, others not....I wouldn’t, being used to the integrated solutions from B&O for decades.

 

Ask the Eclipse owners, if they are pleased.

 

The question of costs is - as always with the B&O stuff, now and before - a different matter.

 

MM

 

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

 

 

 

Eclipse is perhaps the most Satisfying B&O product I’ve had since the BC2. Really!

 

.... and the TV/video engine is entirely 3rd party! Says it all really.

 

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moxxey replied on Tue, Apr 2 2019 10:09 PM

Millemissen:

Ask the Eclipse owners, if they are pleased.

As I said earlier, Eclipse owners appear to be the most pleased/defensive* users on this forum (*delete as applicable)

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