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matador43 posted on Sun, Feb 17 2019 11:28 AM

Good morning guys,

I want to know someone knows an simple and not too much costly way of controlling led lights with the Beo4 remote?
I've search on the forum and they were some replacement solution for the LC1/LC2 but the either not available anymore or not working with LED lights.What I actually need would be a simple on/off switch controlled by the remote, possibility to control various switch would be perfect. I don't even talk about light scenarios as I suspect it would involve a more complicated system.
I was wondering if it wasn't a simple Lutron wall switch which could be hijacked just to receive IR signal and switch on/off the output or something similar.

I know Lintronic solution can do this and lot more, but I'm not confortable with it.

Generally speaking, why is it so difficult to make a simple Beo4 controlled switch? What mysterious tech make this complicated?

Thank you all, Enjoy your Sunday.

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Guy replied on Sun, Feb 17 2019 3:19 PM

+1.

I'd like to see a simple/cheap LIGHT system too.  I purchased a Lightmanager Pro from jbmedia several years ago in order to use the LIGHT switch on my Beo4s, but sadly they don't make the B&O version any more.  I use my Lightmanager daily, but in my current set up it's only line of sight (hence useable) in a single room.

 

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matador43
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Silou:

Interresting link. Thank you Silou. 
Their web site doesn't give much information on the product but i've send them an email.

I'll keep this thread updated. Thank you. 

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Andrew replied on Mon, Feb 18 2019 9:42 AM

I thought Boscom made one?, I have two of theirs and they are great. The other option is a Lintronic box which means you can use it with any make and pretty much future proof. I have a couple of these, the oldest one must be 10 or 12 years old and still going strong, that one controls a Yaqin Valve system, Fireplace and Lights. If I bought another TV I would most likely buy another Lintronic Box so that I could keep using my Beo4. 

The beauty of the lintronic solution is that you can program it to do exactly what you want and are freed up from having to stick with one make.

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Thank you Andrew

According to their websites, Bosscom devices doesn't work with led lamps and have the same drawbacks than LC1/LC2, i.e. need 40w charge).
I'm also searching a cheaper solution and more discret (Bosscom alu dimmer, are too obvious to me) more like the one in the previous link, even though the same device in any warehouse shop would cost 5 times less.

The JBmedia would have been an good solution too (thank you Guy by the way, I've been reading your thread before posting!) but its discontinued and nothing have been able to replace it.

I've been investigating if some sort of IR493 to wifi converter exist, which would have been able to control even basically, wifi lamps like ikea ones but without any luck. Since my mac mini can see the ir commands from the beo4, I was wondering if any software gateway would have been possible.
All this without any successful result… So far Smile 

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Hi,

The Lutron Ranias (modified version for B&O remotes) and UnoDims used to be good as a 2-wire replacement for a standard light switch.  As with the LC1/LC2, they need to see a resistive load (ie. at least one incandescent bulb along with the LEDs) in order for them to function.

They all went out of production a few years ago, but there are often a few on the pre-owned market.  Some B&O dealers may still have the Ranias in their stores, they were often to be seen in glass display cabinets......

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Thank you Steve,

Does anyone know why most systems have that rule (minimal load required?).
I mean, is it a technical constraint to ALL remote switch or is it because the dimmer feature?
Why is it so complicated to do just a on/off switch controlled by a simple IR command ? 

Like this but controlled with beo4. 

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Good morning to you alls,

Well, I've investigate the link provided by Silou:

https://revoxbeo.jimdo.com/bang-olufsen/

After some mails exchanged with the guy I did buy the converter for Intertechno power socket on/off switches.

The guy is "handcrafting" thoses converters by itself in swiss, so he can answer specific demands.
As an example, I didn't need the wall sockets because they were swiss type and to be future proof I wanted six channels instead of 3.

He answered all my questions quite quickly and always was available for more details.

I ordered alongside the European Intertechno plug switch on Amazon (IT-10 set: 3 plugs + 1 remote, form factor smaller than original swiss ones).

The shipping was fast and i started to play with this when all arrives.

The converter is a very small black box (5x5x3 cm) with a provided external 12v power supply. It's look like a small intronic box with a transparent red front face. It need to be in direct view of the beo4 remote but can easily be concealed.

Pairing is flawless. Press the pairing button on the device, enter the command on the beo4 (LIGHT + 1/2/3/4/5/6 + GO), done.
The Intertechno switches have 8 memories slot, so you have room for individual commands, groups and command with original remote as security.
You also have to add the general command (LIGHT + LIGHT or LIGHT + GO) for ALL LIGHTS ON command which actually is more used for ALL LIGHTS OFF (LIGHT + STOP on the BEO4).

So far i've experience just two little cons:

- Intertechno switch are not easy to find in France AND are not directly compatible with French sockets (no Earth hole on the male side). But the whole range is easy to find on german websites. They're not expensive but they're not the cheapest neither (Vs Chacon for example).

- My Beo4 has the Bosscom mod to command Samsung TV. I dont really know how it happen but it makes the GO button being capricious and some light commands are hard to pass (needs a little learning in pressing timings). After paying attention to this, I also noticed the GO key works erratically also in say the Samsung TV menus. I also tried regular beo4 and the command work as expected. 

So I'd say that was the solution i was looking for. Money wise it's fair: 65€ delivered for the 6 actuators, and the converter is 120€ for 6 channels.
Also note that the whole Intertechno range work with the same codes so you can add ceiling switches, programmable timers etc…

As reading back myself I notice this look like advertising but it's not. I'm not related with the brand or the guy appart for the sympathy i have for his availability and patience.

Hope this helps.

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Guy replied on Thu, Mar 14 2019 10:59 AM

Many thanks for this info Matador - very useful! I may get one of these to expand my light control into different rooms.

One question: How do you purchase?  I can't see a link on his page.

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Hi Guy, I knew you gonna be interested Wink.

Sent an email, paid by paypal. I'm quite reluctant generally but we had a lot of technical exchanges and he guy seemed trustful which he finally was.

Depending on what you call "different rooms", you may ask to the dealer (Sylvain) about the strength of the radio signal if you plan to have one module for very remote lights.

I also forgot to mention that Intertechno also sell a Wlan Gateway wich can makes the same lights controllable by wifi (without taking off the RC/Beo4 control).

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Guy replied on Thu, Mar 14 2019 2:26 PM

Thanks very much.  I am moving back to my own house in May, so will have a re-think about my B&O AV and lighting setup when I get there.  My first priority will be to replace the current MCL setup with a 'modern' ML system, and then I will think about lighting.  Having said that, I have used MCL's two-way functionality successfully in the past to pass LIGHT commands from one room to another.

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