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Piaf
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Piaf posted on Wed, Nov 21 2018 5:43 PM

A 4 year search for a Beocord 5000 led to finding 2 within days of each other, & both, oddly enough in Seattle.Both are the later 2-head decks.

The first arrived DOA but the second worked, if horribly noisy. I have been waiting nearly a year to have someone willing to do a professional restoration, but just couldn't wait anymore, & decided to try myself.

Tackled the non-working deck first with the expected dried lubrication, and broken or fallen-off belts. Installed Martin's 5-belt kit, reassembled, and nothing. Everything lit up. but no movement of the cassette.

Went to bed crestfallen, but I had an idea in the morning to plug in the unit with it in the ON position & like magic, the cassette played, beautifully.

The problem(s) with this initial non-working Beocord are: Only PLAY,  FF, ON, & OFF work, nothing else does including STOP. To get the Beocord to either EJECT or STOP, it has to be turned off. In addition there is a considerable BUZZ on the aluminum button panel that goes away when any of the non-working buttons are depressed.

Suffice to say I cleaned thoroughly all the button contacts...... twice. In a perfect world I would just sent this Beocord back to the repair shop, but for now, I AM the repair shop.

Any idea why most of the control buttons do not work and the associated buzzing noise?

The sound quality is excellent, in case anyone is interested.

Let's move on to the working deck. Once I got the first Beocord functioning I was ready for the second and working deck. This deck had sensational sound quality from the beginning.

First thing I noticed as different, the larger drive wheels were quite corroded, requiring sandpaper, which struck me as odd.

Then I noticed the motor had become very loose and was hanging at a considerable angle, rubbing against the belt. (Figured, NO wonder it was so noisy.) The usual clean, lubrication, & belt change followed.

With this deck, I expected perfect results, as it worked so well before servicing. What a got was a motor struggling to move the cassette. What the heck?

Anyone that has ever changed the belts on a Beocord 5000 knows that this is a labour intensive project, & each deck took a bit over 6 hours to complete, or basically 13 hours of work.

I was so worn by the whole project that I unplugged the Beocord, & only then noticed that I had neglected to insert the circuit board shield that keeps the bottom of the mechanism from making undesirable contact with the circuit board below.

Could the missing electronic shield cause sufficient shorts to under-power the motor?

Any ideas or comments would be VERY welcome!

Jeff


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chartz replied on Wed, Dec 19 2018 9:50 AM
Hi Jeff,

Sorry but being very busy - and tired - these days I’ve had very little time for anything else than work and family. It may be the most wonderful time of the year, but there are tons of things that have to be done before the holiday.

I’ll have another look at the SM when I finally get some rest.

Jacques

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Piaf replied on Sat, Dec 22 2018 8:27 AM

Hi Jacques,

Boy, I certainly understand! We are hosting the family for Christmas.

Both decks are doing well with daily use, but I am concerned about the one we are talking about. Suffering electronics should never be ignored.

When you get the time, I will appreciate your input.

In the mean time, DO enjoy the "most wonderful time of year," as it really can be.

Merry Christmas Jacques, you are an amazing friend. And a Happy New Year to you and your family! Smile

Jeff

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Piaf replied on Sat, Dec 22 2018 8:32 AM

Jacques,

I just noticed that you were still on-line and wondered what you were doing up at this hour.

How provincial of me, it is 9:30AM in France, and 12:30 AM here.

Good morning Jacques, and good night to me, past midnight.....

Jeff

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chartz replied on Sat, Dec 22 2018 9:00 AM
Do have a very happy Christmas too Jeff!

And... sleep tight my friend!

I really hate that one star membership by the way. Sad This will be fixed in due time, because I will never leave this wonderful place!

Jacques

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Piaf replied on Mon, Dec 31 2018 4:34 PM

chartz:
I really hate that one star membership by the way. Sad This will be fixed in due time, because I will never leave this wonderful place!

Jacques this is absolutely NOTHING "one star" about you, of that you may be certain.

New Year's Even coming up and wouldn't you know it, I have a lousy head cold. (I have no sense of timing.....)

By the by, it has now been a couple of months since I tinkered with my two Beocord 5000's, both get used approximately 1 1/2 hours per day and are performing exceptionally well. (One deck near flawlessly, the other with a couple of limitations, but still playing music brilliantly.

Anyway, I do wish you and your family a very Happy New Year.

Jeff

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Piaf replied on Mon, Jan 14 2019 7:47 PM

Guys,

I was back inside my limited function Beocord 5000 on an unrelated bulb issue and took yet another look at all my non-functionjng control buttons, and I am scratching my head.I don't get it. There is no reason these buttons shouldn't be working as designed.

To be clear all the switches appear to work perfectly, contacts are ALL well cleaned, and they ARE making contact, yet both STOP buttons, PAUSE, EJECT,  and REVERSE do not work.

Only PLAY and FAST FORWARD work.

Another "interesting" point, because STOP does not work, the only way to stop the cassette is to press OFF, and when pressed the tape head retracts violently, like a mini-Earthquake. We are talking a real SHUDDER when the tape head retracts.

On the other BC 5000, press STOP and there is a tiny thud noise, but no hefty shaking.

Lastly, as mentioned previously, EJECT does not work with the Beocord on, it must be shut off, and then EJECT works fine.

If anyone has any ideas, I sure would appreciate them as I have basically exhausted all my ideas.

Jeff

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Piaf replied on Thu, Jan 24 2019 6:21 PM

Hi Jacques,

Did you forget me? With the holidays, that would be entirely understandable.

However, when you find the time, anything you can suggest about the above problems, would be most appreciated.

And although you probably won't believe this, I just acquired another Beocord 5000, my third, and also from Washington State. This one, everything "operates" except reverse.Why I am find them all in Washington State..... I have no idea.

As soon as Martin returns home, I have an order in for bulbs and his belt kit.

I use both Beocords daily for an hour or so and once settled in, now several months, NO tape chewing! Yea! Big Smile

Jeff

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