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leosgonewild Posted: Fri, Oct 12 2018 7:49 AM
Does anyone use the connection hub with an LG oled?

I am having some issues setting up the universal remote.
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leosgonewild:
Does anyone use the connection hub with an LG oled?

 

I am having some issues setting up the universal remote.

Are you using the LG remote, or a Universal remote, if so which one?

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I am using the LG magic remote.

I tried setting it up as a universal with Samsung soundbar yesterday, no luck.

It seems that the magic remote function needs to be connected to a hdmi-input. How will I be able to control volume when using Netflix?
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I am just not a 100%

But the Magic remote do not have IR

The connection Hub needs IR

So you need another solution.

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Tayne replied on Fri, Oct 12 2018 2:26 PM

I've been using this exact setup for over a year now. It doesn't work with the magic remote due to the reasons mentioned above. I initially set it up with the volume commands from my Sony Blu-Ray remote, but ultimately looked into a universal remote solution which can control LG TV, Blu-Ray, Connection Hub, Sky Q & Apple TV.... Cuts down on the remotes somewhat!

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OK.

The headphone output has so much noise that I can’t connect the BL7.2 directly either Sad
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trackbeo replied on Fri, Oct 12 2018 5:14 PM

Emil Jensen:
I am just not a 100%. But the Magic remote do not have IR. The connection Hub needs IR. So you need another solution.
Nor am I 100% certain, but believe the Magic Remote *can* do IR.  That's how I configured an LG OLED TV to work with a Sonos PlayBase. (You click the home button on your MagicRemote and scroll along the bottom (where Netflix, etc is) until you get to "device connector", then select "soundbar" and pick the Phillips brand, and select remote type 4.)  The tricky part is that the Sonos device has a mode where *it* learns the IR commands (for a Philips type-4, in its case).  I don't have a connection hub to test, to know if it can learn this properly.  But someone here did this before:

https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/t/23005.aspx

[Edit: to delete words indicating certainty & add words indicating personal experience :-]

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davidr replied on Fri, Oct 12 2018 6:23 PM

trackbeo:
Nor am I 100% certain, but the Magic Remote definitely *can* do IR.

Yes that was me, the LG "magic remote" does defiantly output IR if you fake a receiver in TV menus as stated. The TV control stays BT but it has a sort of basic universal control for certain devices, like receivers. The S8 hub doesn't care so long as it learns some sort of IR commands and you have means to blast that. It does work.

However - the LG remote only outputs IR commands when the Tele is switched on. For my usage that is an issue as I still wanted volume control even with the tele switched off such as Airplay.

In the end I bought a Harmony elite which controls the LG, S8 and AppleTV. And yes even their latest LG OLED still comprehends LG IR commands. Not a plug to Logitech but this has to be the best universal remote I've seen. Works great to set up macro commands, power on order, input selection and so on.

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trackbeo replied on Sat, Oct 13 2018 3:55 AM

davidr:
However - the LG remote only outputs IR commands when the Tele is switched on.
OT, David, but I actually wondered (and never had the time to test): Is Emil *technically* correct, i.e. is the remote issuing *only* RF commands like always, and no IR mode exists in the remote -- but rather the LG TV receives the RF commands for volume-up/down/etc. and *it* has a blaster inside to send out whatever you have programmed it to do?!?

In other words, are the Sonos & LG help forums playing fast and loose with the facts, because it's easier for people to believe and understand that the remote starts sending IR, than to grok the concept of redirection and translation?  Are all the smarts actually inside the TV?  This would explain why the Magic Remote "stops working" to control the S8 when the TV is powered off...  Or did the LG engineers go through extra trouble to prevent the remote from sending volume up and down when it senses that it isn't running the TV at the moment, so you don't get surprise volume blasts when you power up again?

So Leo, if you do this, inquiring minds want to know: When you get yours working, can you either try the camera-IR-visible trick, or throw a black plastic bag over the remote (or the TV) and see what happens to responses by the S8?  In one sense it truly would be magic if it worked by TV translation and blaster, because the Magic Remote could control the S8 (assuming the TV is on) even from the other room, when it isn't pointed at the S8!

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davidr replied on Sat, Oct 13 2018 6:59 PM

trackbeo:
OT, David, but I actually wondered (and never had the time to test): Is Emil *technically* correct, i.e. is the remote issuing *only* RF commands like always, and no IR mode exists in the remote

I already checked that by the iPhone camera (can see IR somewhat) and yes the remote itself has the IR blaster, lower front section. Actually even with the TV off, the remote still sends some sort commands to button pushes, but they're not the same as when the TV is on sadly.

As far as I could tell the TV doesn't have an IR transmitter that I could find. The TV IR receiver & RF is located on the front thing where the standby LED is.

So position your IR blaster like Harmony Hub somewhat to the 'face' of the TV.

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I finally got this to work with my setup.

I set the LG magic remote put to work with a Denon soundbar. The S8 accept the IR command from the remote now.

So now I have my "Beovision X" working with only one remote :)

 

Great success!

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I finally got this to work with my setup.

I set the LG magic remote put to work with a Denon soundbar. The S8 accept the IR command from the remote now.

So now I have my "Beovision X" working with only one remote :)

 

Great success!

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CB replied on Wed, Oct 24 2018 6:35 PM
Bravo Leo Yes - thumbs up

May be some details on how to?
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Well done - how is your setup at present?

Do you still have the Penta’s as fronts, or?

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CB:

Bravo Leo

May be some details on how to?

Sure, press the home button and go to the right and click “Device manager”

Choose to add sound bar, make sure you choose optical (not hdmi arc)

Then chose Denon and done.

Now you can set up the S8 as normal Big Smile
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Millemissen:

Well done - how is your setup at present?

Do you still have the Penta’s as fronts, or?

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

I have the wireless Pentas for music, and the Beovision X for picture and sound.

Feels nice to use own names for my stuff

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