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Bang & Olufsen App 1.9.9 beta

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Mbollo01’s suggestion may mean a new hard drive that plugs into your network.

I have seen references to people using Time Capsules ... but the TC has no DLNA software on it so you need to host that software (Twonky, PLEX, Orr whatever) somewhere.

In my case I host PLEX on a MacMini with an external USB hard drive (the Mac’s HD is too small).

Do you have only the one Mac ?

My first “server” was a 2008 MacBook Big Smile

Here is a link on PLEX which I found simpler than Twonky and which had other benefits.

https://www.plex.tv

https://www.plex.tv/your-media/music/

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Stefan replied on Tue, Sep 4 2018 8:46 AM

Thanks everyone, I will check PLEX and I guess I set up a server.

Bests, Stefan

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mbolo01 replied on Wed, Sep 5 2018 6:28 AM
Interesting ..... Color Picker is no longer present for Core and Moment Big Smile but has disappeared for A6 and M5 Angry why?

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Hi Thomas.

I have tested version 1.9.10.14858:

 

  • Color picker is now gone for all my products (previously it was only my integrated BV11/Core setup that had problems) Sad
  • The TV icon flicker in the "Now playing" window is gone. The TV icon is steady. However, there is no longer any info about the selected TV station Wink
  • There is still update problems for the DLNA covert art in the "Now playing" window. For the first selected song the cover art is displayed, but when I step through the songs, the cover art disappears. If I close and re-open the now playning window, the cover art is displayed again Wink

Furthermore I have discovered the following issues. They may have been present in previous versions also:

  • When a TV source is playing on the BV11, the Core (integrated with the BV11) is in the list of selectable products in the "Multiroom" window (BeoVison 11-40 Group) together with my M5. Being integrated with BV11 it doesn´t make sense to add the core to the group as it points back to the BV11 speakers already playing.
  • When a source from the Core is playing on the BV11, the M5 is not shown as a selectable product in the "Multiroom" window.
  • In the TV-remote, the "Line-In" from the Core is shown as a selectable source, although it is not in the TV-source list. Other sources are in synch with the TV-list.
  • When I log out of the app and back in again, the placements of my products are reset on the home screen. 

 

Best regards - Dyssegaard

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mbolo01 replied on Thu, Sep 6 2018 7:18 AM
The back button in the Multiroom screen is almost invisible:

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Hiort replied on Thu, Sep 6 2018 2:01 PM

mbolo01:
The back button in the Multiroom screen is almost invisible:

 

 

 

On my app there are no back button at all (version 1.9.10)

 

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mbolo01 replied on Thu, Sep 6 2018 3:04 PM

Hiort:

On my app there are no back button at all (version 1.9.10)

In order to see the back button you must launch the Multiroom from a now playing screen. I have 1.9.10 too.

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Hiort replied on Thu, Sep 6 2018 8:18 PM
mbolo01:

In order to see the back button you must launch the Multiroom from a now playing screen. I have 1.9.10 too.

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....and you must look twice - white text on a light grey background is not the best.

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raveny replied on Tue, Sep 11 2018 8:20 PM

Can you change the colour of the Eclipse? I’ve changed it for the BeoSound 1 and 2 but that option is not available for the TV

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Hiort replied on Wed, Sep 12 2018 6:23 AM
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Can you change the colour of the Eclipse? I’ve changed it for the BeoSound 1 and 2 but that option is not available for the TV

Probably not. Color option removed for BV11 as well.

 

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L1NO replied on Fri, Sep 14 2018 8:41 AM

I'm upset about the new app-update, the app in general really. The app crashes (iPhoneX) when swiping trough the TV controls, TV controls are stowed in a sub-menu (??), controls itself are layout in a horrible way ui-wise, missing features like speaker selection and some list functions, many doubtful interface choices like huge photo's of products (icons would suffice) and the list goes on.

I'm still loving the Beo4 and One and Essence remotes but app-control is needed at times, this is sup-par at the moment.

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Sandyb replied on Fri, Sep 14 2018 9:04 AM

On the TV remote issue - i agree.

If a BV is selected from the Products tab, then when you touch the black bar at the bottom, it should expand to the TV remote page(s).

It is another example of extra taps / swipes to get to the obvious page .

I don't have app crashing issues with my iPhone X using the TV remote part - though i haven't used it much.

 

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Dyssegaard replied on Fri, Sep 14 2018 10:01 AM
L1NO:

I'm upset about the new app-update, the app in general really. The app crashes (iPhoneX) when swiping trough the TV controls, TV controls are stowed in a sub-menu (??), controls itself are layout in a horrible way ui-wise, missing features like speaker selection and some list functions, many doubtful interface choices like huge photo's of products (icons would suffice) and the list goes on.

I'm still loving the Beo4 and One and Essence remotes but app-control is needed at times, this is sup-par at the moment.

I have also observed that the app crashes when swiping through the TV controls (BV11 and iPhone 7) and I fully agree with your other comments.

Best regards - Dyssegaard

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mbolo01 replied on Fri, Sep 14 2018 4:12 PM
Hiort:

Probably not. Color option removed for BV11 as well.

I don’t think we should expect any answers to our questions here as production releases are out before we get feedback on our beta test report.

According to the 1.9.10 prod released 3 days ago, only a subset of products are supporting the color picker .... I’m lucky I selected my M5’s one prior they remove the option for this device Smile

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tigerisak replied on Tue, Sep 18 2018 7:48 AM

Any idea on when Siri Shortcuts will be supported?

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L1NO replied on Tue, Sep 18 2018 9:17 AM

Great response from BeoCare. It's kinda infuriating and missis the mark greatly. It's time to steer away if you'd need future-thinking in your setup : 

Thank you very much for your e-mail.  We agree that if it comes to operation of a television the BeoRemote exceeds the Bang & Olufsen app. However, when it comes to multiroom, configuring products etc the Bang & Olugfsen app exceeds the BeorRemote app by many miles - but that was also what it was meant to do. So it really depends on where your focus is. If you still have the BeoRemote app installed we would recommend you use this app to the television rather than the Bang & Olufsen app.
 
I have of course forward your comments to the R&D department for their consideration in connection with future deceupdates.
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Sandyb replied on Tue, Sep 18 2018 7:49 PM

About to ask the same question.

Seems as if Shortcuts is seen as a big potential upgrade in iOS12.

Not big into voice myself, but it looks pretty powerful (Siri using Workflow, which is effectively what Shortcuts is).

Had a quick play with the podcast app Overcast, which has just been updated to work with shortcuts. Pretty useful / interesting - for that app alone, the app designer has built in 20 or so commands that Siri can trigger.

Haven't quite worked out whether the one Siri trigger command can set off a chain of action across a set of discrete apps. If that's possible, then great.

 

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tph replied on Tue, Sep 18 2018 8:39 PM

Sandyb:

Haven't quite worked out whether the one Siri trigger command can set off a chain of action across a set of discrete apps. If that's possible, then great.

It can. When you make new shortcuts (which can themselves include multiple shortcuts from different apps) in the Shortcuts app, you can add them to Siri to allow them to be triggered by voice. I highly recommend Federico Viticci's review of iOS 12, which has a detailed look into what Shortcuts and Siri can do. For an example of multiple apps working together in a single, Siri-triggered shortcut, check out Morning Routine, which is a bit later in the review.

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Soren replied on Wed, Sep 19 2018 9:40 PM

After updating to iOS 12 the app freezes and looses the connection to my BV11 when I am using the new remote function.... the problem occurs when I am switching between the different remote “sides” 

The old BeoRemote also crashes under iOS 12😳 so maybe that’s the end for that brilliant app 😢

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Hi Thomas.

I have tested version 1.9.11.15321 on my iPhone 7 (iOS 12):

  • The app doesn't crash anymore when scrolling through the TV control, pages Smile
  • In my integrated BV11/Core setup it is now possible to select my M5 in the Multiroom window with Core sources playing on the BV11. As reported earlier this was not possible previously. The BV11 and Core are still shown as 2 separate devices in the Multiroom window, however, when I adjust the volume on one of them the other follows automatically. I have attached a screen shot of the Multiroom window showing this. So now the functionality is in place and only the cosmetic part remains (Core is integrated with BV11 and should only be visible in the setup window) Wink
  • The other issues I have reported earlier are still present Sad

 


Best regards - Dyssegaard

Kitchen family room: Beovision 11-40 / Beosound Core, Beolab 3 (front), Beolab 8000 / R1 (back), Beolab 2 (sub), Apple TV 3, Chromecast. Bedroom: Beoplay M5. Home office: Beolit 12. Travel: Beoplay H8, Beoplay A1. NAS: WD My Cloud Home / Plex DLNA Server.

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Hiort replied on Wed, Sep 26 2018 12:56 PM

Dyssegaard:

 

  • In my integrated BV11/Core setup it is now possible to select my M5 in the Multiroom window with Core sources playing on the BV11. As reported earlier this was not possible previously. The BV11 and Core are still shown as 2 separate devices in the Multiroom window, however, when I adjust the volume on one of them the other follows automatically. I have attached a screen shot of the Multiroom window showing this. So now the functionality is in place and only the cosmetic part remains (Core is integrated with BV11 and should only be visible in the setup window) Wink

Its the same when you have Moment integrated. I agree its not so logical.

 

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In my setup - using the iPad - there is not much to test with latest betas.

Looking forward to the iPad compatible version - to see, how the controlling of my tv’s is.

MM

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Sandyb replied on Wed, Sep 26 2018 2:15 PM

Won't it look exactly like the iPhone version?

i.e. the TV remote part will likely occupy the right half of the screen, with the product list on the left half.

Otherwise its pretty much exactly the same as Beoremote app version - after all its essentially a straight port from that app to this.

No TV guide etc has been ported, but the rest looks very very familiar, on a white background.

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Ok, thanks!

There is no ‘BeoRemote’ functionallity in the beta version running on the iPad.

(and thanks for the screenshots, you provided on the previous page)

Why, I don’t know - much be complicated.

This is how it looks, when the tv tuner is activated.

You can see the name of the station, control volume, skip through your programmes -

and of course change to other sources.....but that is not new.

MM


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jc replied on Fri, Sep 28 2018 10:16 PM

Does anyone know why, when searching albums from an artist in Deezer, not all albums are shown? While they actually are available in Deezer, if you type in the name of the album?

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jc replied on Fri, Sep 28 2018 10:17 PM

Does anyone know why, when searching albums from an artist in Deezer, not all albums are shown? While they actually are available in Deezer, if you type in the name of the album?

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jc replied on Fri, Sep 28 2018 10:17 PM

Does anyone know why, when searching albums from an artist in Deezer, not all albums are shown? While they actually are available in Deezer, if you type in the name of the album?

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jc replied on Fri, Sep 28 2018 10:18 PM

Whoops triple post, sorry.

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mbolo01 replied on Sat, Sep 29 2018 11:27 AM

2.0.0.15508 has many regression/bugs:

Found so far:

No more touch tone for M5 or M3
Volume control no longer working
Now playing screen cannot be minimized back
"..." in the now playing screen is no longer working
Device multiroom screen is messy and no longer working

 

Going back to production release

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Interesting, with me the app runs correctly so far at these point ....

I have problems with the progress bar. Sometimes it shows 100% even though the song just startet. but this problem i had also in the 1.9.9-release. 

i also do not understand the shuffle function. sadly it does not change the playlist-queue, so you can't see whats next and you can't change the order.

furthermore i hope, in a future version there will be a better account-management, because i switch between different houses and a better integration of my beovision horizon (yeah, i love it with his rolling rack)

 

but above all the new version works well for me :)

 

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mbolo01 replied on Sat, Sep 29 2018 12:57 PM
ChrisBerlin:

Interesting, with me the app runs correctly so far at these point ....

Interesting indeed ... i tried on two IOS 12 devices, an iPad mini and an iPhone 6, including a fresh install of the 2.0 beta, same behavior, same bugs

I agree on the progression bar, same behavior here too with 1.9.9

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ngnear replied on Sat, Sep 29 2018 1:16 PM
Total disaster!

As already reported ToneTouch has disappeared from the M5 controls.

TuneIn station Icons no longer appear in the control panel.

The control panel cannot be minimised.

The remote controls do appear to function correctly.

I will downgrade to 1.9 again.
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mbolo01 replied on Sat, Sep 29 2018 2:05 PM

Beta 2.0.0.15510 has been released since and fixes the issues reported earlier ... this is called agile development! As fast to introduce bugs than to fix them :-)

 

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Soren replied on Sat, Sep 29 2018 2:11 PM

I think they know about the problems.....3 updates within the last 3 hours😳 now version 2.0.0.15510!! Now also with remote on iPad😀

Søren

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ngnear replied on Sat, Sep 29 2018 3:32 PM
OK, most issues that were introduced with the update have been resolved. But I still have to minimise the control/play screen a couple of times until the TuneIn radio station icon appears.

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