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I can't decide which system to put together from my collection. Advice appreciated.

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-c
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-c posted on Wed, Jun 27 2018 6:57 AM

I have an enviable problem, I've been collecting for a long time and I can't seem to let anything go.  I'm turning over a new leaf so I've decided it's time to put one primary system together and let go of some of my treasured B&O items.

I realize the obvious choice for most may be a BM8000 and 2 sets of MS150s.  I'm currently listening to a BM4400 with 2 sets of BeoVox MS150s and while it's a lot of sound, it's still a bit underpowered for the large room I have.  I also really like my BM6000 and prefer both my 4400 and 6000 to my BM8000 however past a certain level my ears hear the sound flattening out before the overload light even flashes. 

Perhaps adding an equalizer to the BM8000 would help if I can find one that doesn't hiss.  Any suggestions on an EQ would be appreciated, maybe a vintage Sansui?.

Here is what I'm seriously considering:  BM8000 with EQ and 1 set of MS150 (front) and 1 set of M150 (rear) .  I would be sending my BM8000 to Sonavor to get it properly restored and I'd sell most of the rest of my B&O gear.

It's painful because whatever I don't keep, I'm selling.  

Suggestions?

 

-c

 

It's a fine line between collecting and hoarding, and I'm always dancing on it.  Beomaster 8000 x2, Beocord 8004, Beomaster 6000, Beocord 9000, CDX, Beomaster 6500, Beocord 6500, Beogram 6500 CD, Beogram 6500 Turntable, BeoSound 2300, BeoSound 2000,  BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 6000, BeoLab 2 Sub, BeoVox S45.2 x4, BeoVox S75, BeoVox S120, BeoVox M150,  BeoVox MS150, RL140, BeoTime, BeoCom 1

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Stereomensch
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There's only one solution: to buy more B&O stuff.

Wouldn't a black Beosystem 7000 look marvelous in your dining room?

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I love this kind choice!

What is it that you do not like about the BM8000 sound? If it’s the “too clean, too articulate” sound compared to the others Beomasters, I’d focus on the source and adapt that before adding an EQ. I run my turntable through an external phono-preamp and my CD player through a DAC to get the sound I like from the BM8000.

Also, my BM8000 sounded less harsh after restoring. Have your MS150s been recapped? Also, the loudness filter on the 8000 is great and adapts with increasing volume. One of the rare receivers I use the loudness filter on and if I’m feeling an analytical listening session, I’ll turn it off.
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-c replied on Wed, Jun 27 2018 3:58 PM

Thanks, very solid advise.  My 8000 doesn't sound bad at all, I just prefer the 4400/6000 because they sound warmer or richer to my ears,  perhaps a restore of my 8K is in order. 

My MS150s sound great however with 4 of them the BASS is a little overwhelming which is why I'm thinking of replacing one set with my M150s or I could wire a set of MS150 and M150 in Parallel which would give me 75w 

Did I mention that I'm OCD about sets of things - it all has to match the same era.  That would mean it's between the 6000 or the 8000  - the 4400 will go in the bedroom I suppose and could power the S75 and S45 in ambio.  (see I just talked myself into keeping more stuff and that's exactly my problem - right there) 

I've recapped all of the speakers.

It's a fine line between collecting and hoarding, and I'm always dancing on it.  Beomaster 8000 x2, Beocord 8004, Beomaster 6000, Beocord 9000, CDX, Beomaster 6500, Beocord 6500, Beogram 6500 CD, Beogram 6500 Turntable, BeoSound 2300, BeoSound 2000,  BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 6000, BeoLab 2 Sub, BeoVox S45.2 x4, BeoVox S75, BeoVox S120, BeoVox M150,  BeoVox MS150, RL140, BeoTime, BeoCom 1

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It seems like you are not really emotional with a Beomaster 8000 so stick with prefered 4000/6000 and you will be happy. 

You have properly reached a point where it's between one Beomaster or another. Me too have kept the BM6000 mainly as I got the complete system as Beomaster 8000 did not do it for me as such compared.

 

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Look at pictures and get ideas. Anderz - Old school B&O - Click here. -

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-c replied on Thu, Jun 28 2018 4:53 AM

My wife likes the modern B&O but I really like the vintage stuff.  Beautiful design, great sound - no wonder Danish people are the happiest people on earth.

 

 

It's a fine line between collecting and hoarding, and I'm always dancing on it.  Beomaster 8000 x2, Beocord 8004, Beomaster 6000, Beocord 9000, CDX, Beomaster 6500, Beocord 6500, Beogram 6500 CD, Beogram 6500 Turntable, BeoSound 2300, BeoSound 2000,  BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 6000, BeoLab 2 Sub, BeoVox S45.2 x4, BeoVox S75, BeoVox S120, BeoVox M150,  BeoVox MS150, RL140, BeoTime, BeoCom 1

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If you have enough space to store it all (and what may come)....

....why not set up a ‘new’ system once a year ;-)

Maybe then - in 5-10-15 years (depending on how big your collection is) - you can choose which one to use for your daily living for the rest of your life ;-))

MM

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Andrew replied on Thu, Jun 28 2018 1:43 PM

I would do what MM says as you will find you miss the 4400 or the 6000 and then end up spending more money buying them again! I know as I've done that and also thought of rationalising.

Is it not possible to have say the 8000 drive the front speakers and 6000 drive the rears or vica vera - that should give you the power you need and if they share the same remote volume commands you should be able to control them - not sure how you link the sources though - maybe an external switch box

I also use a valve external preamp for vinyl and a valve preamp condtioner for digital sources - gives everything a nice warm full sound.

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-c:

- no wonder Danish people are the happiest people on earth.

Might be true......for those, who can afford buying B&O stuff.

Otherweise it’s maybe a myth?

MM

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Thanks Peter 

I did not know the pictures where anymore available due to photobucket is hosting them for FREE and did a lot of baninng all users as they decided to want to charge all for their service. The effect being a speedometer showing instead. It seems their policy changed back to having a FREE option.

Only selected pictures where used but the rest are still available to see: 

http://s114.photobucket.com/user/Friedmett/slideshow/

I still love my Beogram 6500 system in white and 6000 system too. I just got no more to ad of value currently to ad to the long thread on hifi4all though it is a good insight to the craziness of old school ownership in Danish.

 

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-c replied on Fri, Jun 29 2018 1:58 AM

Do you know if the 6000 is bridgeable?  That way I could get more power than the BM8000 - in theory - I'm thinking if I use a splitter for the turntable and the MP3 it might work.  I would have one volume control for each channel but what's the difference? 

 

Would that work?

It's a fine line between collecting and hoarding, and I'm always dancing on it.  Beomaster 8000 x2, Beocord 8004, Beomaster 6000, Beocord 9000, CDX, Beomaster 6500, Beocord 6500, Beogram 6500 CD, Beogram 6500 Turntable, BeoSound 2300, BeoSound 2000,  BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 6000, BeoLab 2 Sub, BeoVox S45.2 x4, BeoVox S75, BeoVox S120, BeoVox M150,  BeoVox MS150, RL140, BeoTime, BeoCom 1

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Andrew replied on Fri, Jun 29 2018 7:21 AM

Which turntable are you using?

I'm thinking you could use a splitter lead either splitter on phono to the two phono inputs and splitter on MP3. Or tape out on one BM (with phono and MP3 connected) to tape in on the other. Or there maybe a away of taking the Audio out to the Audio in using the 4 pin sockets on the back of them - but not sure about that

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I wouldn't do that. The Beosystems (in my opinion) are best setup as complete systems on their own. They are designed to function together both in play and in looks. Back in the 80's I passed on the Beomaster 8000 (and the Beosystem 8000) because I wanted more options.  I briefly considered some options like your are pondering regarding connecting up non-B&O components with it. In the end I bought the Beogram 8002 but combined it with a system of Yamaha separates, Yamaha NS2000 speakers and a Nakamichi Dragon. It is a great system and I still have it. In the last few years I have been collecting and restoring a number of my favorite audio components that I always wanted. That got me infected with the Beovirus and I have settled into primarily B&O components. As I have posted here and on the Beolover Blog, I really appreciate the Beosystem components now.  They work so wonderfully together.

My suggestion is to design a listening area for your Beosystem(s). Maybe rotating systems as suggested earlier. It sounds like you are attempting to fill a really large room though so I would make your listening area half what you are currently trying. A nice swivel, recliner right in the middle of four MS150s should do the trick Wink. I would also keep the MS150s paired with either your Beomaster 8000 or 6000 because part of the Beosystem experience is the interconnection of the components. As good as the Beomaster 4400 is (and it is a great receiver) I would keep it paired with a nice Beogram 400x turntable and some Beovox M100s or M75s.

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