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Eclipse: Problem with Dolby vision in 50/60 hz

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Martin
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Martin posted on Fri, May 11 2018 9:15 AM

Hi,

I read in an old thread that people have problems with UHD-signals over 30hz.

Can someone tell me if I have the "same" problem or this is just the "early" samples of the Eclipse?

With my Apple TV I can without problem get 60hz in HDR 4:2:0. As soon as I use Chroma subsampling 4:4:4 the screen goes banana and just flicker.

But: No UHD movies or anything else is shot in Chroma subsampling 4:4:4 and what I know ALL UHD-movies even if they should be in 60hz HDR they are in chroma subsampling 4:2:0. I have not found any movie or anything else that have Dolby Vision in 50/60 hz. So why Do we see this as a problem? What I know just one movie is shot in 60hz which is 'Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk'

Just use chroma subsampling 4:2:0 in your Apple TV 4k. If You have a UHD-bluray player connected, use chroma subsampling 4:2:0 and then everything shoud work perfect. I have an Oppo UDP-203 and have put it in chroma subsampling 4:2:0 and all movies is shot in this color space. The Movie "Billy Lynn" that is shot in 60hz HDR (not Dolby vision!), works great in the Eclipse and I can se that the Oppo-player output 60 hz/BT.2020 color space and chroma subsampling 4:2:0. So the eclipse CAN handle 60hz HDR.

Someone in the old thread said that the Eclipse DONT WORK with any UHD-sources over 30hz.

My question: Does some eclipses dont handle any UHD-sources over 30hz and mine does? Or are we talking about Dolby Vision in 50/60hz that dont work?

My only problem with my Eclipse is that Dolby Vision dont work over 30hz when the source is connected thru HDMI in the soundcenter. But that is no problem since there is NO UHD-movies shot in fram-rates higher than 24hz or maybe 30hz.

Regarding putting your connected HDMI-sources in chroma subsampling 4:2:0 vs 4:4:4: The thing is that either You let the Eclipse make the conversion to RGB-signal (4:2:0 to 4:4:4 and then to RGB) or let the connected device do most of the conversion. The problem with the HDMI-inputs in soundcenter is that you must let the Eclipse make all the chroma subsampling conversions and put the connected devices in 4:2:0.

I have been in contact with Beocare and they say that "some" eclipse samples is affected and not all. IS THIS CORRECT or is it ALL Eclipse:s?

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Martin

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Fidse replied on Fri, May 11 2018 2:41 PM
My PS4 Pro does not work when connected to the soundcenter. My screen also “goes bananas” and flickers. And that is regardless of any settings changed. Emil Jensen wrote on here, that he had no problems with either PS4 or Appletv after he changed to chroma settings on his, But it doesn’t seem to work on mine. I got mine in january.

Another guy in the Eclipse thread, has said that his dealer says that it needs the hdmi board (i believe it was this) changed, and this will be done in june. I’m guessing mine needs a hardware change too But i haven’t talked to my dealer about it yet....
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I’ve been told that I’m going to get a replacement Sound Centre for my Eclipse. If any chance I can get the brass tone I’m going to try for that!

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Martin replied on Tue, May 15 2018 9:11 AM

Hi Chris,

why should they replace the soundcenter and not just the HDMI board?

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Martin

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No idea. Just what my dealer mentioned last week.

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Fidse replied on Wed, May 16 2018 8:53 AM
I’ve got my dealer calculating a price for swapping mine to a brass tone, as we speak.

It looks f****n amazing on the motorised stand!
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Got an answer from the repair-man.

Vedr. der skal skiftes et modul, samt 2 stk kabler i din soundbar,

B&O regner med at kunne leverer delen omkring uge 24.

English:

A module must be replaced, as well as 2 cables in your soundbar,

B & O expects to be able to deliver the part around week 24.

So its not the whole Soundbar that will be switched out. Anyone else that has a repair planned?

 

 

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tigerisak:

Got an answer from the repair-man.

Vedr. der skal skiftes et modul, samt 2 stk kabler i din soundbar,

B&O regner med at kunne leverer delen omkring uge 24.

English:

A module must be replaced, as well as 2 cables in your soundbar,

B & O expects to be able to deliver the part around week 24.

So its not the whole Soundbar that will be switched out. Anyone else that has a repair planned?

Same here around the same time
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Martin replied on Wed, May 16 2018 3:14 PM

Hi,

I wonder if this module/cable exchange is needed for ALL Eclipse:s which is sold or just some and in that case from which serialnumber? Does anybody have clue regarding this?

Is it a general fault on ALL Eclipse?

Best Regards
Martin

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I’ve just been told my serial number isn’t up for replacement. I’m going to check my Apple TV when I get home though as I’m sure it doesn’t like it being in Dolby Vision!

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Martin replied on Sat, May 19 2018 5:50 PM

Hi Chris,

 

When did You buy your Eclipse?

 

Martin

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December 2016, how come?

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Martin replied on Sun, May 20 2018 7:10 AM

I ve been told that the exchange is for units produduced after 1th of february

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Fidse replied on Sun, May 20 2018 5:33 PM
You mean 2017, right?

Chris Hassell:

December 2016, how come? BeoVision Eclipse 55”, Beolab 18s, Beolab 19s, Beosound 1, Beoplay P2, H3, BeoRemote One IR, BeoRemote One BT, Beoplay S8, Beosound Essence MkII, BeoTime

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Anyone got a repair date booked yet? My repair man haven't got back to me with a date yet.

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