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MrAndersen Posted: Mon, Aug 7 2017 9:33 PM

Hi all 

I'm sorry for my absence as of late. First of all, it has been a well-earned and needed summer holiday second, we have been brewing on something new. First some background. When we announced that we would remove BeoMusic we received a lot of negative feedback on the new app, both for missing features, but also on our UX approach in general. In any software team and in any company this creates some stir and cause for reflection on our work so far. We came to realize that we agreed with many of the grievances of our users and if we wanted to change track we should act now. So, we got to work with fresh eyes and with all the complaints given in our feedback channel both politely and angrily. This resulted in an entirely new navigation pattern and a new and Deezerless onboarding experience. We have also put the products we know you love front and center, in other words given them the position they deserve. This is just to mention a few things, there is much more. 

We have just put the very first beta of this on TestFlight (in review as of writing, should be out shortly) and would love you to check it out. Bear in mind this is early bits and still rough around the edges.

This is the highlights

  • New navigation
  • New Home view for easy and beautiful product access
  • Easier multiroom control
  • Easier access to standby
  • New player
  • New onboarding experience (no Deezer unless you want it!)
  • New product settings page 

Known issues

  • Occasional products become unreachable, we would love to hear if you experience this
  • Multiroom group disappears from the app in setups with many access points
  • Product takes a few seconds to connect when coming from the background
  • Meta data flickering in player bar 
  • Some product images are missing

If you are a beta tester please use the feedback in the app for bug reports. If you are not a beta tester, please drop me a message in here and I will add you. Looking forward to your comments. 

Best regards,

 

Thomas Andersen, Bang & Olufsen

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elephant replied on Tue, Aug 8 2017 11:32 AM
Thank you for listening

Thank you for considering

Thank you for having courage to change direction and start again

Best wishes

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Hiort replied on Tue, Aug 8 2017 11:45 AM

Thanks for update!

Will download the Beta and provide feedback. 

Super good that you have taken a new grip on the app.Smile

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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ScottMacK replied on Tue, Aug 8 2017 12:01 PM
Hello MrAndersen

I would like to become a beta tester.

I currently experience my A6 being unreachable from the app a lot. I don't experience this with my M5 or Moment. What can I do about this?

Thank you

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Hi Scott

Please send me a privat message in the forum with the email you use for your Apple account and i can add you.

As for the issue with your A6, please send us a feedback from within the app explaining the issue you are experiencing. We will then have the logs

 

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mbolo01 replied on Tue, Aug 8 2017 12:43 PM
Hi MrAndersen,

Will existing X app beta testers receive the new app to test automatically? I currently have 1.0.5 7294

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liviu_o replied on Tue, Aug 8 2017 12:46 PM

Mr Andersen, what about the timer. It would be great to have the posibility to wake up on music and to sleep without worying about switching off.

If I corectly remember you said the you have this in mind too.

Thanks!

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Just a heads up: The beta test review seems to take a long time, this time around. The current beta is still not updated. 

 

@liviu_o: We had to postpone alarms because of the product launches and UX refresh. On the roadmap! Really want this myself since I use an A6 as alarm and it is such a pain to set.

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lonfred replied on Tue, Aug 8 2017 6:01 PM
Hi if possible please add a "Join all" function. Would be great to have a "party mode" without need to select product by product. If possible a setup menu for this "join all" function with possibility to set up which products that should be included in the group and the sound level each product should start on in this mode and if possible also possible to chose an fixed playlist that start with this function....
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jans replied on Tue, Aug 8 2017 7:37 PM
Hi MrAndersen

I am very curious to see the new version! Unfortunately it is not yet on TestFlight. I'll keep checking

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lonfred:

Hi if possible please add a "Join all" function. Would be great to have a "party mode" without need to select product by product. If possible a setup menu for this "join all" function with possibility to set up which products that should be included in the group and the sound level each product should start on in this mode and if possible also possible to chose an fixed playlist that start with this function....

A "scenes" concept (such as in home automation) with scripts/recipes might be a powerful extension of your "all on" use case

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It just arrived

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Hay Mr Anderson

The image for a V1 is a A9

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Much much nicer you have outdone yourselves.

I liked the new app but this is something else. Very smooth and nice feel to it.

Great job

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Hey Seanie

Thanks! Glad you like it. We do not have all the product images ready yet, fallback image is A9. This will change tomorrow.

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mbolo01 replied on Tue, Aug 8 2017 10:35 PM
Very good job, some minor language issues that I have reported but general feeling after 20' play is very positive

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mbolo01 replied on Tue, Aug 8 2017 10:42 PM
I like the double tap on the music icon to go back to the music home, very useful when you are far in the DLNA navigation ! One of my first request for enhancement ! Good job

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beojeff replied on Tue, Aug 8 2017 10:48 PM

elephant:
5th attempt to post

 

 

lonfred:

 

Hi if possible please add a "Join all" function. Would be great to have a "party mode" without need to select product by product. If possible a setup menu for this "join all" function with possibility to set up which products that should be included in the group and the sound level each product should start on in this mode and if possible also possible to chose an fixed playlist that start with this function....

 

 

A "scenes" concept (such as in home automation) with scripts/recipes might be a powerful extension of your "all on" use case

I have created a macro to achieve this (see my thread in the Home Automation forum), but I agree that it would be great to have this function in the app.

Also, is it beyond the realm of possibility to include legacy ML devices other than just the device indicated by the BeoLink Converter? The MLGW and BLGW can identify each ML device as a "node" on the ML network. Or would this require the MLGW/BLGW to identify and control those nodes?

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egges replied on Tue, Aug 8 2017 11:12 PM

great improvement!!! both thumbs up!

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Carolpa replied on Wed, Aug 9 2017 6:26 AM

Seanie_230:
Hay Mr AndersonThe image for a V1 is a A9    Sean

as presumably all BV's (same on BV11; but the team is working on it)

first impression: very good indeed

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Hiort replied on Wed, Aug 9 2017 2:10 PM
Agree with earlier posts.

Great improvementBig Smile

 

 

 

 

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Carolpa:

as presumably all BV's (same on BV11; but the team is working on it)

first impression: very good indeed

yup. BV5 and BV7 (via ml/nl) only show a black page. but that's my least worry. first impression of the gui is very promising. looking forward to do some testing over the weekend.
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Sandyb replied on Wed, Aug 9 2017 4:18 PM
Seems a definite improvement

Products first on the homepage is exactly right

Mix of black and white colour schemes on different pages looks odd, needs to be unified in my opinion

Seems to pick up my products more quickly, which is encouraging.

Still desperately missing DLNA search though!

Didn't notice much difference on the settings section, am I missing something?

Anyway, good work, so much appreciated

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Maniax replied on Wed, Aug 9 2017 4:24 PM

with this new app,

im unable to move from a song back to its original playlist and adding it as a favorite.

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Hi Mr Andersen

I would like to become a beta tester.

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@talisman: Please send me a private message with your email and I can add you

@Sandyb: We have discussed the black and white a lot. We had our doubts if the album art would work on white. Tried it today and it looks fine. We're making it all white, starting on it tomorrow and you should see it soon. DLNA search had to be postponed because of the UX refresh, its coming

@steve1977: BV images are coming tomorrow or friday. If you had other issues with the BVs please send us a feedback

 

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@Maniax: Missed your comment. I'm not quite sure what your mean? Could you elaborate?

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mbolo01 replied on Wed, Aug 9 2017 9:14 PM
Today's update has fixed both the issues I reported yesterday. Great job.

Minor text overlapping issue on the Spotify setup screen:

And the about screen still has the X App logo

Yes - thumbs up

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bs206 replied on Wed, Aug 9 2017 9:40 PM

@MrAnderson; i like to be part of the beta testers to. I have send you an email. 

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Maniax replied on Wed, Aug 9 2017 11:30 PM

MrAndersen:

@Maniax: Missed your comment. I'm not quite sure what your mean? Could you elaborate?

Let's say you use another device to play a playlist.

What you see in your own phone with the beta app is the song that is currently playing.

However when you press the "V" symbol on the top left hand corner, it does not go "back" to the playlist page (and thus you cannot view the playlist or add it to favorites). Instead it goes "back" to the main device page.

 

 

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beojeff replied on Thu, Aug 10 2017 12:37 AM

@MrAnderssen:

Could you please address our interest in having an "All Join" function in the app?

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steve1977 replied on Thu, Aug 10 2017 3:16 AM

MrAndersen:
@steve1977: BV images are coming tomorrow or friday. If you had other issues with the BVs please send us a feedback

Will have some more time on the weekend, but gave it a quick try. Unfortnuately, ML/NL support does not appear to be properly implemented yet:

* When I select the BV via ML/NL and then pick a radio station, it gives me the error message "action not supported by selected product". I am aware that the ML/NL does not have a radio client. However, it worked with the Beomusic app to play radio when selecting the ML/NL and then selecting radio (mapped from A9 radio device) without playing on the A9. So, it should technically be feasible and would be good to have back

* When I select multiroom, my two ML/NLs don't show up in the list

 

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elephant replied on Sat, Aug 12 2017 8:57 AM
I got the BLC working

(This my 4th attempt in 48 hours to PST that news)

Its ability to play Deezer in both rooms (!!!!) seems variable - may be down to who joins whom

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elephant replied on Sat, Aug 12 2017 9:01 AM
Testing DLNA to my PLEX server (Apple Mac mini) accessing my iTunes CD rips ...

I can't remember what the previous beta used for cover art.

I am pretty sure this is the first time I have seen this graphic of a PLEX LP Big Smile

(1st post attempt)

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Sandyb replied on Sat, Aug 12 2017 10:39 AM
And a multi room group capability...for example defining a group such as bedroom plus lounge
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Hiort replied on Thu, Aug 17 2017 8:09 AM
New beta version released.

Now with white theme all throughout. Much nicer.

Also an icon for BV11 Smile

 

 

 

 

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mbolo01 replied on Thu, Aug 17 2017 10:43 AM
And you can source Apple Music too

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ngnear replied on Thu, Aug 17 2017 12:20 PM
Avant Pictures also added

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buesch replied on Thu, Aug 17 2017 1:53 PM

how do you source AppleMusic?

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buesch replied on Thu, Aug 17 2017 1:53 PM

how do you source AppleMusic?

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