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markiedee replied on Mon, Aug 28 2017 1:37 AM

These are the active speakers i heard, they are called the klang 9

https://www.loewe.tv/int/klang/loewe-klang-9

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BeoET replied on Mon, Aug 28 2017 9:50 AM

Just had a brief look at the new Eclipse today (65"). I must say that this Beovision is true to the B&O design heritage! A bit unusual at first without an aluminum frame around the ultra thin display, but the proportions and the placement of the speaker plus the black glass under the speaker makes this balanced design both modern and timeless IMO. And I guess that hardly any other OLEDs on the market will match the sound quality from this set. 

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Michael replied on Mon, Aug 28 2017 10:23 AM

Now two days from release I wonder more about the specs than the design. 

Powerlink? Or only WISA?
PUC control?
HDMI Matrix and room sharing HDMI-solution?
Movable stand?
Gamma correction?
And so on.

Does anybody know? 

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vlohjr1 replied on Mon, Aug 28 2017 10:46 AM
Michael:

Now two days from release I wonder more about the specs than the design. Powerlink? Or only WISA? PUC control? HDMI Matrix and room sharing HDMI-solution? Movable stand? Gamma correction? And so on. Does anybody know?

The stand rotates like the new avant and the motorised stand bracket is similar to the bv11
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What B&O should do is work with LG toward a partnership where the physical format of LG TV panels slips into a B&O made motion stand+soundbar, with LG's connection box expanded and software enhanced for B&O use.

Then everybody wins!

It's no longer LG buyer vs. B&O buyer...it's both!

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Sandyb replied on Mon, Aug 28 2017 12:18 PM

Isn't that more or less what they have done (or look to have done)?

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No, what Barry wants is a 'B&O dockings station', where he can mount different LG tv's, and echange those along the way.

Isn't it, Barry?

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Marcello replied on Mon, Aug 28 2017 1:01 PM

Michael:

Now two days from release I wonder more about the specs than the design. 

Powerlink? Or only WISA?
PUC control?
HDMI Matrix and room sharing HDMI-solution?
Movable stand?
Gamma correction?
And so on.

Does anybody know? 

Matrix support via update in Q4.

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mbee replied on Mon, Aug 28 2017 1:03 PM

Michael:
Powerlink? Or only WISA?
PUC control?
HDMI Matrix and room sharing HDMI-solution?
Movable stand?
Gamma correction?
And so on.

That's an interesting question, because if B&O doesn't have a department for developing video solutions, will they keep the connectivity ? I really need my Beovision to connect to a HDMI switch (via PUC on my current BV) to switch between sources and use the sound processor with my videoprojector...

Also : will the P.Mute mode still be possible (again, when using a beamer)???

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Sandyb replied on Mon, Aug 28 2017 1:19 PM

Well that would be an interesting idea if thats what he meant.

Whether they would want to be tied in to one hardware manufacturer (LG) is less clear, as they would need to be if the B&O docking part is not to become obsolete over time.

I guess my point was that the separation of and re-constituting of audio and video s effectively what they have done with the existing partnership. Moving one step further with the customer piecing it together at their whim is hard to conceive, despite its innate attraction.

Really hope people like the new TV offering all the same, and i suspect many will, but lets see.

Meanwhile i'll continue to work out if i can make some BL50's part of my life - proving difficult to forget how good they sounded

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Millemissen:

No, what Barry wants is a ' B&O dockings station ', where he can mount different LG tv's, and echange those along the way.

Isn't it, Barry?

MM

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Yes! That's it!

Partner with LG for compatible form factor.

And perhaps optional trim in various finishes and materials
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KMA replied on Mon, Aug 28 2017 4:36 PM
I just put my LG OLED for sale.

There'll be an Eclipse – the 2nd total eclipse this year!

Lets have a Party !!!

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That would be an idea for a B&O Play product.

But certainly not for a genuine Bang & Olufsen product.

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Duels replied on Mon, Aug 28 2017 4:56 PM
Millemissen:

That would be an idea for a B&O Play product.

But certainly not for a genuine Bang & Olufsen product.

MM

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Agreed.
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Practical detail: what is the exact timing of the presentation this August 30 th???

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Steph replied on Tue, Aug 29 2017 2:26 AM

Press session : 10h-11h

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BeoGreg replied on Tue, Aug 29 2017 11:47 AM
The speaker makes me think of a Besound Century with black fret (speaker only of course no cd part).

Screen + speaker fret is black on black no alu.

Floor stand looks like Bv11/14 but with the Avant gesture.

But sushhhh.
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vlohjr1 replied on Tue, Aug 29 2017 11:52 AM
BeoGreg:

The speaker makes me think of a Besound Century with black fret (speaker only of course no cd part).

Screen + speaker fret is black on black no alu.

Floor stand looks like Bv11/14 but with the Avant gesture.

But sushhhh.

There are many different fret colours and look good
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elephant replied on Tue, Aug 29 2017 12:07 PM
Steph:

Press session : 10h-11h

Hmmm 8pm AEST Stick out tongue

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Mockup?

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BeoET replied on Tue, Aug 29 2017 12:57 PM

Like this mockup http://www.recordere.dk/2017/08/beovision-eclipse-oled-tv-ventes-klar-paa-ifa/ without the alu frame round the panel.

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BeoGreg replied on Tue, Aug 29 2017 1:31 PM
But the speaker is rectangular and angular like a Century, Beolab 2500 or Beocenter Av5. Not at all like a Beolab 7 form.
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jvdl replied on Tue, Aug 29 2017 2:02 PM

Be patient, tomorrow you know :-))

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boskonay replied on Tue, Aug 29 2017 2:06 PM

I really like the look of the LG 77...

Having a (not NG) Avant 85, it seems there is no 'upgrade' path...?

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jvdl:

Be patient, tomorrow you know :-))

Kl. 10:00-11:00 – Bang & Olufsen pressemøde Live stream: Ingen

http://www.recordere.dk/2017/08/ifa-kalender-pressemoeder-live-stream/

For B&O’s Press Event, under Live Stream it says “none”.

Do B&O normally live stream their press events at IFA?
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jvdl replied on Tue, Aug 29 2017 2:36 PM

AngloApulian:

For B&O’s Press Event, under Live Stream it says “none”.

Do B&O normally live stream their press events at IFA?

 

Because it is on thursday and then it wil be available.......

 

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Do you know if there is a live broadcast? 10 AM Berlin time?Thanks for your answer !

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30.09.17 at 17.00 CSET - live stream of presentation on B&O Facebook page

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Steph replied on Tue, Aug 29 2017 6:42 PM

May be we can get pictures from recordere or another media at 10h?

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Ogunsaniya:

30.09.17 at 17.00 CSET - live stream of presentation on B&O Facebook page

17.00 CSET? I thought the Press Event was in the morning between 10.00 - 11.00 CSET?
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Steph:

May be we can get pictures from recordere or another media at 10h?

 

10ish Smile

The press meating starts around 10h and last for a hour. Product reveals may be anytime between 10 and 11, but I assume the new products to be covered at the beginning (they usual do this).

But yes, there will be pictures at recordere, when available.

Regards, Lars

 

 

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AngloApulian:
Ogunsaniya:

30.09.17 at 17.00 CSET - live stream of presentation on B&O Facebook page

17.00 CSET? I thought the Press Event was in the morning between 10.00 - 11.00 CSET?

 

B&O have two pressmeetings arranged for wednesday at IFA. The one at 10h and then another one at 17h.

It seems that they have som sort of a social live event for the second one.

Regards, Lars

 

 

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Mikipidia replied on Tue, Aug 29 2017 7:35 PM
Its much prettier than the renderings suggest, but there are also things i don't like so much.

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Beofan2 replied on Tue, Aug 29 2017 7:53 PM

I´ve been window shopping tonight and saw the Eclipse. Seen from the front it´s basicly a huge piece of glass. The speaker slightly curves and is a little wider than the screen. You don´t notice any gap between the screen and speaker. It´s oled on metal. The backside reminds me of a slimmer BeoVision 6/7. Everything nicely hidden. And some alu on the back too. All in all it looks great. A true (Lewis) BeoVision.

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Mikipidia replied on Tue, Aug 29 2017 8:03 PM
Yes, it does look very good :)

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YannChris replied on Tue, Aug 29 2017 8:30 PM

Beofan2:

I´ve been window shopping tonight and saw the Eclipse. Seen from the front it´s basicly a huge piece of glass. The speaker slightly curves and is a little wider than the screen. You don´t notice any gap between the screen and speaker. It´s oled on metal. The backside reminds me of a slimmer BeoVision 6/7. Everything nicely hidden. And some alu on the back too. All in all it looks great. A true (Lewis) BeoVision.

 

Seems promising !

 

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Lars Ladingkaer:

B&O have two pressmeetings arranged for wednesday at IFA. The one at 10h and then another one at 17h.

It seems that they have som sort of a social live event for the second one.

Regards, Lars

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Oh I see Smile

Thanks for clarifying.
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Seen the picture on the web now, looks good and I can imagine even better IRL.

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MJ replied on Tue, Aug 29 2017 8:43 PM

Not even introduced yet, and the official advertisement is already out on the internet:

http://www.e-pages.dk/plb/30/html5/9/

See page 9.

Looks promising, we'll see the real life pictures tomorrow.

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moxxey replied on Tue, Aug 29 2017 8:48 PM

MJ:

Looks promising, we'll see the real life pictures tomorrow.

Conclusion: the "guesswork" was pretty much identical to that photo.

I kind of like it. Still not convinced about the black area under the speaker though.

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