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Thanks for free retro-upgrade, Apple.   I now have an AEx receiving AirPlay 2 protocol, feeding a BC 9500 - thanks to an elegant cable solution from Steve @ Sounds Heavenly.  In this case, it's providing multi-room solution to gear that's not even wireless-aware.

It's inexpensive enough that I might acquire another AEx and attach it to another system that B&O isn't going to make AirPlay 2 compatible - e.g. Beoplay A8.

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elephant replied on Wed, Sep 19 2018 6:58 PM
Guy:

L1NO:

 

Was the audio in sync?

 

Yes.  Perfectly so!

Guy, that’s not my experience with my BV8 Sad

Maybe it’s chips are too slow !

What TV are you using ?

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1990 replied on Thu, Sep 20 2018 9:00 AM

Any update on the release of the new firmware?

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L1NO replied on Thu, Sep 20 2018 9:11 AM

Guy:

L1NO:

 

Was the audio in sync?

 

Yes.  Perfectly so!

 

 

Can you tell me your setup? I'm quite curious.

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Guy replied on Thu, Sep 20 2018 10:20 AM

My setup:

Lounge:

- ATV4 (not 4K version) running latest firmware (now running iOS12 - but also worked fine with iOS11)

- HDMI Audio Extractor supplying ATV video to DVI socket and Audio to PC inputs: https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NAJ4UM2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

- BV6-26 (Mk2 Type 9272) using internal speakers

Dining Room:

- Airport Express (latest model MC414LL/A A1392, running latest 'Airplay2' firmware 7.8)

- 3.5mm to DIN cable supplying AE audio output to AUX input of ...

- BeoCenter 9500, using passive speakers

I have just checked again and the audio is perfectly synced - whether Airplaying from a separate device or direct from the ATV4.  Perhaps I have simply 'got lucky' in that the DAC in my audio extractor has the exact same processing time as the DAC in the Airport Express!

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elephant replied on Thu, Sep 20 2018 9:27 PM
Guy:

Perhaps I have simply 'got lucky' in that the DAC in my audio extractor has the exact same processing time as the DAC in the Airport Express!

Seems you did!

What a miracle!!

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The processing in the BV8 (via HDMI) probably introduces the ‘out-of-syncness’.

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w5bno123 replied on Thu, Sep 20 2018 10:56 PM
1990:

Any update on the release of the new firmware?

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w5bno123:

November/December for Airplay2

Do you know the reason for this major delay? Last offical time frame from B&O was August/September 2018 ...

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Hiort replied on Fri, Sep 21 2018 11:09 AM
Dyssegaard:

Do you know the reason for this major delay? Last offical time frame from B&O was August/September 2018 ... Best regards - Dyssegaard

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Im trying out the beta release for Airplay 2.

Seems to be a few things to iron out, still.

 

 

 

 

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jrodrigo replied on Mon, Nov 12 2018 3:40 PM

Hi, my Beoplay M3 is update with Airplay 2 the last week, but no update for M5 or Beosound 1 ¿no news? ¿any info? Thanks.-

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Here we go:

(click the pic to see all)

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jrodrigo replied on Mon, Nov 12 2018 6:27 PM

Thank U very much!!

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Luigi01 replied on Sat, Nov 24 2018 2:16 PM

Hi, is the new M3 software update for AirPlay 2 adding a stereo feature using 2 of the M3 in one room? (like 2 with HomePods). Thanks!

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Luigi01:

Hi, is the new M3 software update for AirPlay 2 adding a stereo feature using 2 of the M3 in one room? (like 2 with HomePods). Thanks!

No!

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jimcaj:

B&O announces Airplay 2 for:

(No date yet)

Beoplay M3
Beoplay M5
Beoplay A6
Beoplay A9 mk2
BeoSound 1
BeoSound 2
Beosound 35
BeoSound Essence mk2
BeoSound Core
BeoSound Shape (via BeoSound Core)
BeoVision Eclipse TV (audio only)

According to my latest informations there should be sw updates out now for ‘all connected devices’ for enabling AirPlay 2.

Anyone updated, and which devices?

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My Eclipse was updated yesterday

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TiamMiller replied on Tue, Nov 27 2018 11:12 AM

No update for my BS1 Yesterday Night :/

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elephant replied on Tue, Nov 27 2018 11:45 AM
My Core is up to date; I had to update the Essence.

I don’t know if these versions have AP2.

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elephant:
My Core is up to date; I had to update the Essence.

I don’t know if these versions have AP2.

That should be easy to check - assuming that you have an iDevice.

If you see a ring behind the name of the device(s) in the AirPlay menu, they are AP2 enabled.

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Emil Jensen:

My Eclipse was updated yesterday

So now.....the big question,

if you have other AP2 devices: is the stream in sync, when the Eclipse is involved?

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Emil Jensen:

My Eclipse was updated yesterday

No update on my Eclipse!!

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I do not have other devices yet, was waiting on Google Assist on Beosound 1, just released today in Denmark, so I guess I have to buy soon :)

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TiamMiller:

No update for my BS1 Yesterday Night :/

 

Try again now :)

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....and check this out, too

https://youtu.be/omMLHf2hIOQ

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Jon replied on Tue, Nov 27 2018 2:19 PM
Just got the update for my A6 Smile
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mbolo01 replied on Tue, Nov 27 2018 6:37 PM
On top of Core and M3 updated in wave 1, my M5, A6 and BS1 are now AP2 aware .... waiting for iTunes fix now to improve the protocol.

Correction: after a while, iTunes is responsive again and I was able to stream from my Mac to all AP2 devices, all in sync. End of test, back to B&O multiroom

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mbolo01:
End of test, back to B&O multiroom

With my two tv as the main products for audio plus the Essence as the main source device, there is not much use for AP2 here.

I’ll stick to good old NL-BeoLink multiroom.

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Got the update for my a9. Works as expected.  

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Millemissen:

That link refers to A9 3rd gen?

This must mean it has CORE innards 

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steve1977 replied on Wed, Nov 28 2018 11:58 AM
Aussie Michael:

That link refers to A9 3rd gen?

This must mean it has CORE innards

Any clue what’s the difference between ASE 1, ASE TK and ASE 2?
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Aussie Michael:

Millemissen:

That link refers to A9 3rd gen?

This must mean it has CORE innards 

The A9 3rd gen is a not yet released - not even officially announced - product.

I did hear about it - now they have let the cat out of the bag.

I have no idea, when it will be released, so don’t ask.

The mentioned abbreviations means differentvhw versions.

I suppose that the A9 3rd gen is built on the same as the others in that group.....and will have similar functions.

P.S. The 3rd gen should feature additional drivers at the back (so I was told) - will be fun to hear, how that sounds compared to the 1/2 gen.

 

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Millemissen:

The mentioned abbreviations means different hw versions.

I suppose that the A9 3rd gen is built on the same as the others in that group.....and will have similar functions.

MM

.....whch would mean that the support of Spotify Connect is removed (?).

But also that there will be (?) possibility for Voice Controlling (Google, Alexa......).

However, we should wait for the official announcement to be sure.

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beojeff replied on Sat, Dec 1 2018 3:37 PM

I see that there is now a PUC update on the BeoSystem 4 for the Apple TV that adds "Airport Menu." I'm curious why that have it mapped twice: to the yellow button and also to the "2" button. It seems to be the same function. I'm a little disappointed that B&O didn't utilize the "INFO" button while they were updating the PUC.

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Hi Jeff,

I know the guy who makes most of the PUC-files, and he's a great guy and all, but he has one major flaw; he's a TERRIBLE mindreader - so what would you like to utilize the INFO button for?

 

I requested the change for the "AirPlay menu" because we started launching AirPlay 2, but had no way to bring up the menu on Apple TV. So I asked him to map it to Yellow, since Yellow already was mapped to play/pause on the Apple TV, and the way you get the AirPlay menu to show is with a long press on play/pause (and this part was not mapped).

The reason why it's mapped twice is basically because of the BT remotes. You don't have an overlay menu on neither BV14 or Eclipse, like you have on BV11. So the way you access 3rd party "special functions" is through the List of the BeoRemote 1 BT. I don't know if it is because it's a colored button or because it's a long press, but he couldn't get it to show up in the menu of the remote, unless he also saved it to a number key. So on BV11 and similar, you will see the entries twice. You will not on BV14 and newer.

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beojeff replied on Sat, Dec 1 2018 6:50 PM

christiank:

Hi Jeff,

I know the guy who makes most of the PUC-files, and he's a great guy and all, but he has one major flaw; he's a TERRIBLE mindreader - so what would you like to utilize the INFO button for?

 

I requested the change for the "AirPlay menu" because we started launching AirPlay 2, but had no way to bring up the menu on Apple TV. So I asked him to map it to Yellow, since Yellow already was mapped to play/pause on the Apple TV, and the way you get the AirPlay menu to show is with a long press on play/pause (and this part was not mapped).

The reason why it's mapped twice is basically because of the BT remotes. You don't have an overlay menu on neither BV14 or Eclipse, like you have on BV11. So the way you access 3rd party "special functions" is through the List of the BeoRemote 1 BT. I don't know if it is because it's a colored button or because it's a long press, but he couldn't get it to show up in the menu of the remote, unless he also saved it to a number key. So on BV11 and similar, you will see the entries twice. You will not on BV14 and newer.

Thanks for the explanation. That makes sense now. That was a great idea to add the AirPlay Menu. It would be nice to be able to use the INFO button to see how much time has elapsed and how much time is remaining for a video. I'm not sure what that command would be on the Apple TV remote, though.

The INFO and GUIDE buttons are, in my opinion, underused in many of the PUCs. My STB PUC uses them well. However, the Oppo Blu-Ray player PUC does not have anything mapped to them. I would think that the INFO should be used for the "display" function on blu-rays, and the GUIDE button should be used for the pop-up menu on blu-rays. Maybe you might pass these ideas along to the PUC designer?

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beojeff replied on Sat, Dec 1 2018 7:00 PM

BTW, on the BeoSystem 4 I have to press the yellow button twice to get the AirPlay Menu. A single press just pauses the video. A long press on the yellow button doesn't bring up the AirPlay Menu either.

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Hi Jeff,

I agree that would be nice, but specifically with the Apple TV its a bit difficult. Because in some apps you can press "go" or "select", you know the middle button on our remote, and it will show the remaining time. But in other apps, if you press "go" it pauses. And then it's weird if it's on the info button.

 

Also, some of the commands on the Apple remote are only Bluetooth, and those we can't map to the PUC. So what we actually would like to have on the info button, is the command that is sent when we make a light tap on the touch surface. That never pauses (from what I've seen), only shows info on the screen... But that command is only bluetooth. Same for the button with the TV icon :(

 

Yes, I will take your feedback to him :)

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