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vikinger posted on Wed, Sep 5 2012 5:48 PM

I've been pondering getting a BL BM 5000 set up for some time, and have started a discussion with Frede. However, reading some of the archived threads, including contributions from Peter and Soundproof, I really don't want the bulky Beovox 5000 speakers, and also get the impression that the cube tweeters don't really add that much to the performance. Having said that, Soundproof had listened to Frede's own set-up as said it was superb, and of course Frede himself cannot recommend any alternatives to the Beovox 5000. I know that the Beovox 3000 was an alternative, and possibly more logical if the cube tweeters cut- out the main speaker internal tweeters.

The bottom line for me is whether there is an alternative modern 4 ohm speaker that the Beolab 5000 will drive....... And whether in reality the 5000 still stands comparison with modern alternatives. The other thing that makes me hesitate is the possible phasing out of FM broadcasting making the tuners redundant. (I am more than happy with my early type BM 2000 driving S45's).

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Well, you pretty much ran the gamut there!

5000 and/or 3000 + 2500 for originality.

I swear there was another speaker that had the 2500 socket, but I can't for the life of me recall the model number. Of course, I could also be wrong! Martin?

At any rate, I think the simplest answer is in your final sentence! Try the single fret S45's ... I think they are a perfect match (to just about everything).

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ɓʋɾɑɳɫɘɮ:
I swear there was another speaker that had the 2500 socket

Scratch that!

You have a GOOD BIT OF CHOICE -if you can find them!

++++(BTW, these other "2500-able" speakers should be linked to the other relevant product pages)++++

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ɓʋɾɑɳɫɘɮ:

ɓʋɾɑɳɫɘɮ:
I swear there was another speaker that had the 2500 socket

Scratch that!

You have a GOOD BIT OF CHOICE -if you can find them!

++++(BTW, these other "2500-able" speakers should be linked to the other relevant product pages)++++

 

 Great link! (This iPad is misbehaving again..... That original post was set out as separate paragraphs but will only post like a text message!(EDIT corrected).

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Some of those speakers capable of taking the 2500 cube might get blown by by the BL 5000 though!
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vikinger:
Some of those speakers capable of taking the 2500 cube might get blown by by the BL 5000 though!

You meddlin' whippersnappers and your BOOMBOOM club music! Super Angry

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beaker replied on Wed, Sep 5 2012 11:40 PM

I had mine connected to pentas and it souded great. I know for originality you should stick to the older beovoxes but they are just so big and boxy

 

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I have a fully restored system from Frede - in the rare Oak finish and have to say it is superb in every way.  I have the Beovox 5000 speakers with the 2500 cube speakers and certainly in the room I have it all set up in, it sounds amazing.  I also use a Beogram CDX2 and Beogram 4000 through it.  I'm also about to set up a Transcriptors Saturn record deck alongside (similar to as seen in Clockwork Orange).  Any one who has heard it has been blown away with it and was shocked to find out it's a system that's over 40 years old and not contemporary.

I don't feel that the 5000 speakers are too big.  In one of the pictures I've shown the Beovox 5000 speaker + cube alongside a Beovox 3000 (to be used as a centre speaker in my system) and a CX100 (not connected, just on display after refoaming).  Certainly for sound, They are exceptional - and originally as the system was designed to be used and enjoyed.  They are very true sounding and music detail is fantastic.  I do think the cubes add something to the tone and overall sound.

I suppose it comes down to why you want this system?  As a collector - go for the complete system.  For the original B&O experience of the era - go for the complete system.  For a budget system using the original amp and tuner - by all means use different speakers but, I would try to get to listen to a complete (restored) set-up as it should be.  You may be very surprised and I think it will sway your decision - it will also cost you a lot more!  To my mind, it's worth every penny.  If FM does go, there will be plenty of digital tuners that could be used via the many inputs so I suspect you could still have the original look with digital audio sourced sound - something I may look at soon as FM here in this region of France is very patchy.

 


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Another picture of the system:

 


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Thanks Dave. Just when I was thinking those speakers were far too big............ I have to have another re-think! Laughing

That's a great set-up. I am aware of Frede's prices, and Danish VAT, and transport.....  Sad

What a dilemma! Smile

 

Graham

 

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vikinger:

Thanks Dave. Just when I was thinking those speakers were far too big............ I have to have another re-think! Laughing

That's a great set-up. I am aware of Frede's prices, and Danish VAT, and transport.....  Sad

What a dilemma! Smile

 

Graham

 

VAT and transport, I really want a reel to reel. and Dave has 2 of them, over here I dont find them, so its DK and transport to Mexico, feel like cryingSad

 

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Peter replied on Thu, Sep 6 2012 9:35 PM

I do have the full set up, but confess to not using the speakers - I have Mk3 Beovox 5000s which have dome tweeters - as I prefer my alternatives. In this case, the Beovox 2500s, which I also have, are less relevant as the domes allow better dispersion of the treble.

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Peter:

I do have the full set up, but confess to not using the speakers - I have Mk3 Beovox 5000s which have dome tweeters - as I prefer my alternatives. In this case, the Beovox 2500s, which I also have, are less relevant as the domes allow better dispersion of the treble.

And the alternatives are..... ?

 

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Peter replied on Fri, Sep 7 2012 8:28 AM

I have BBC LS3/5A speakers which sit on a pair of AB1 woofers. These are 70s speakers, those these are relatively new ones built by Richard Allen Loudspeakers. They are exceptional as far as vocal reproduction is concerned and with the AB1s, have a reasonable degree of bass. They were designed as a near field monitor for outside broadcast facilities for the BBC but were found to have a place as a domestic speaker. In sound, they have a strange likeness in some ways to the Quad ESL though obviously they are much smaller! Equally poor at very low bass!!

Peter

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