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Ravsted replied on Mon, Feb 4 2019 8:31 PM

Goodbye BeoSound 2300 and welcome to Home Automation and Google Chromecast Audio Multiroom. The BeoSound 2300 has served me well for approx. 20 years... but now it's time to say goodbye.

The BeoSound 2300 is replaced with a wall mounted Lenovo TAB 4 10". It is displaying the Home Automation (hass.io) front end and the favorite musicstreaming app. The color theme is black/grey/red ... inspired by many of Bang and Olufsens classic systems.

 

Kitchen:

Lenovo TAB 4 10"

... and Beovox CX50 powered by Lepai amp and source is Chromecast Audio.

Living room:

Beolab 3 and Cambridge Minx 201 subwoofer. Design of the Cambridge Minx is very similar to the BL3's. I've removed the white Cambridge text on the front to make them blend better in. Audio source is Chromecast Audio.

Bravia 55" with BL4000 and 8 inch subwoofer. Audio source is the headphone out on the TV. Controlled with BEO4 via Lintronic.

The frame around the Bravia is home made. Hard wood with black paint. Clean look.

Hall:

BL4000. Audio source is Chromecast Audio.

The BV7-40 MK2.

Kodi on Raspberry controlled via datalink from Scart. HD picture via DVI.

Raspberry is hidden in the stripped HDD recorder cabinet.

Uhhh... forgot the Beosound 1... Chromecast Audio speaker in the bathroom....

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Ravsted, looking good, what are you running on the Lenovo 10" ? the Bang & Olufsen app or?

 

Does it turn on automatic when you get close, or do you have to do it yourself?

Find me on YouTube : Bang & Olufsen Teknisk Forum : https://www.youtube.com/c/BangOlufsenTekniskForum

 

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Ravsted replied on Tue, Feb 5 2019 10:03 AM

Hi,

I am running two apps.

One is the Home Assistant frond end. You can read more here: hass.io. With Home Assistent you can customize the front end and control many of your ethernet devices and iOT's.

It is a webpage running on a local server. It runs full screen as you can see below.

The second app is the favorite music streaming app.

With Android you can select a productivity interface - which makes it easy to switch between apps you've opened. It gives you a Windows-like task bar. You can see that in the buttom of the screen.

The power supply cable is "inside the wall" - so no visible cables. The tablet is on 24/7.

 

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Ravsted replied on Tue, Feb 5 2019 10:04 AM

Wall mount is 3D printed by the way....

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Ser godt ud, nu kan jeg jo se du er dansker :)

I have looked into Hass.io, and maybe I should give it som more time, I tried to run it as a Virtual Machine on my server, but i didnt finished it.

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@Ravsted, well done, you’ve accomplished a few things i was eager to do. I have a few questions:

1) I also bought an “old” B&O HD recorder as “case” for rpi/shield. How did you clean it out though? I realized it’s not as easy as anticipated and i even brought it to a professional to help me cutting pieces out. Any advice? Maybe some shots from the interior and the back for me? Also, how do you deal with bluetooth and wifi as the metal case may present good reception?

2) I haven’t tried hass.io, but wonder what it can do beyond the b&o app or something like plex. I like chromecast audio and it seems the easiest to integrate both old and new b&o (i don’t want to give up my beloved “old” BS1 just yet). However, chromecast seems to lack the ease of adding and removing speakers. I have a lot (!) of speakers, so creating speaker groups for all logical combination is a pain. plus switching from speaker group a to speaker group b doesn’t seem to work as flawless as it should (hand-over issues). Basically i’m looking for the way how airplay-2 handles multi-room, but using CCA. Any thoughts whether hass.io or another APP accomplished this?

3) Did you succeed to connect a CCA to your BV7? If so, what port did you connect it and how did you program it on your BROne?

4) Do you use a PUC to connect to your RPi to control it via BROne? If so, what do you run on the RPi and how did you accomplish this?
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Ravsted replied on Wed, Feb 6 2019 6:50 PM

Hi,

B&O HD recorder:

Well... is wasn't 'cosmetic surgery' but rather 'effective surgery'. I used a metal grinder to make a big hole in the back and rive nuts were drilled away. You will find a photo below. As you'll see I currently have a set top box in there as well. HD picture via HDMI to Component.

The Raspberry is generation 3 with build in Wifi. Approx 10 meters and one stone wall away from the WiFi router. Not facing any issues. But put it as close to the opening in the back as possible.

 

Raspberry / Datalink

I took a scart connector apart and Raspberry GPIO is connected to SCART pin 8 (data) and shield. Sound and communication via SCART and picture via HDMI/DVI. The raspberry has "learned" the signals coming from B&O via LIRC. But you don't need to struggle with that. You can have my config files if you'd like.

PIN 21 from scart goes to PIN 6 (ground) on the Rasberry Pi (model B)

PIN 8 from scart goes to PIN 12 (GPIO 18) on the RPi

Actually another method is to connect a B&O link eye to the Raspberry. It also transfers datalink.

 

Chrome Cast Audio

I have 4 CCA's and I've made the "logical groups" in Google Home App. Like "Kitchen & Living Room", "All Speakers" etc.

I used to have an iPhone but CCA is very badly implemented on IOS. That is the main reason for choosing a Lenovo running Android... and scrapping the iPhone in favour of OnePlus 6T.

It is quite smooth on Android.

 

Hass.io

The main goal by introducing  hass.io was to have a no-nonsense interface. As simple as the good old FM radio. The "home page" has a default radio channel selected. The default speaker group. The default audio level. All you need to do in the morning is touch "play".

But hass.io opens for a number of other opportunities. Macro programmming. Event based actions.... Like, when you phone becomes present on your wifi network you can program it to start playing your favorite radio on your favorite speakers, turn on the coffee machine and lights in the living room..... I am not there yet... But I will be.

 

CCA and BV7

I had the idea but never made it happen. However it should be pretty easy to accomplish with:

2 channel audio mixer (pepperdecks)

1 Powerlink to mini jack (from TV to pepperdecks)

1 Powerlink to mini jack with USB trigger from AV-Connection (from pepperdecks to Beolab)

The Beolab will be on all the time and just mix the sound coming from CCA with whatever is coming from BV7.

 

 

 

 

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Ravsted replied on Wed, Feb 6 2019 6:54 PM

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steve1977 replied on Wed, Feb 6 2019 11:49 PM

Thanks for your long explanation of what you accomplished. It seems all with the same intent I had. Particularly your HD recorder is really great and I may put mine back to action this way. I have a few follow-up question  if you don't mind:

1) HD recorder - you have the advantage being able to own and handle a metal grinder. Shouldn't be too tough though, so let me look into this. I remember the HD recorder had a PSU of some form. It seem you removed this as well. Any specific caution applied and didn't this leave you with a hole in the back?

2) Do I read you correctly that both wifi and flirc (and also bluetooth?) are working from inside the HD recorder?

3) Are you using PUC to receive the flirc signal or directly from the BROne? Do you see advantages either way?

4) Are you saying you don't have "hand-over" issues when switching from one speaker group to a different one? Have you tried this with spotify as well? It's not working well for me and thought it was a chromecast issue, but you are implying that it may be an IOS issue?

5) Have you tried plex? It seems to deliver what you suggest with hass.io in terms of media (not lighting things though). It may have the benefit that it also allows you to stream video (what hass.io does not seem to support).

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Ravsted replied on Thu, Feb 7 2019 9:45 PM

Hi,

1. Yes, stripped it completely. 

2./3. I only use WiFi. Not Bluetooth. As described it is connected with cable from GPIO to pin 8 and 21 in the scart socket in the TV. The socket is defined as V.MEM. The TV believe it is connected to a B&O video or HDD recorder and transmits the datalink codes via scart. So no need for PUC. The raspberry does not have to be within IR or BT reach.

4. I stop casting. Select new group and casting starts again. Haven't tried with Spotify. Can recommend to test on Android. For obvious reasons it works much better on (Google) Android.

5. I am very happy with Kodi media center. Have it on 4 B&O TV's (BV7 and BV5). Integrate smoothly as described above. Hass.io also integrates out of the box with Kodi.

 

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Great, now i just need to find a metal grinder. That’s a cool new project :)

One last question. Did you find any way to play music to your BVs without using your remote / turning on the tv? I’be been looking for years to find a way to play music via CCA / AP to my tv speakers without the effort to use my remote. It sortof works with a ML/NL, but it’s poorly supported by the b&o app. Does your datalink rpi setup allows you to do something like this?
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Evan replied on Mon, Feb 11 2019 7:57 PM

steve1977:

Particularly your HD recorder is really great and I may put mine back to action this way. I have a few follow-up question  if you don't mind:

1) HD recorder - you have the advantage being able to own and handle a metal grinder.

I am utilizing a functionally broken HDR2 for a similar project. I was tearing it down this weekend and when I opened it up was completely surprised to find a piece of steel spot welded into the middle of the case. Was hoping to put in a large power supply for my project, but might have to get another one instead or "unpacking" the the new PSU.

Sadly I do not have an angle grinder.

 

I will add that the hardware inside of the HDR2 was impressive. All fasteners were torx (no stripped heads in there) and the neat sub-compartment with the HDD inside mounted within its own mil-spec sub-frame. On top of all that there is isolation and noise control considerations throughout.

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steve1977 replied on Mon, Feb 11 2019 11:21 PM

I believe that both Ravsted and I have an HDR2 as well. Judging from the photo, it seems he has found a way to cut out the steel plate in the middle?

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Evan replied on Tue, Feb 12 2019 8:20 AM

steve1977:

I believe that both Ravsted and I have an HDR2 as well. Judging from the photo, it seems he has found a way to cut out the steel plate in the middle?

Correct, it has been removed in the above units. I just personally never expected that to be there when I opened the HDR2. I expected a box mostly full of air! Big Smile

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Ravsted replied on Tue, Feb 12 2019 10:01 PM

Hi,

I removed the piece of steel which is spot welded into the middle of the case by a combination of

- drilling the spot welds

- hammer and chisel (between steel plate and chassis)

- rocking the piece of steel back and forth until it breaks.

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Ravsted replied on Tue, Feb 12 2019 10:25 PM

I have a simple and cheap solution for playing music on your Beolab 7.1/2/4/6 while it is still connected to your TV.

I haven't used on on Beolab 7 myself, but I've done it on Beolab 4000 and the principle is the same.

There only one thing you need to accept. The Beolab 7 will be turned on all the same.

 

I did the following when I wanted to "share" a pair of Beolab 4000 between Beosound 2300 and Google Chrome Cast:

 

You need:

2 channel audio Pepperdecks mixer - approx. 30€

1 Powerlink to mini jack cable

1 Powerlink to mini jack with USB trigger from AV-Connection - approx. 25€ (google: "AV-advance Stereo MiniJack med USB trigger kabel til B&O Powerlink")

- USB charger

- Chromecast Audio

 

Connect Powerlink to mini jack cable between TV PL socket and Audio in on the Pepperdecks mixer

Connect Chromecast Audio with mini jack to mini jack to Audio in on the Pepperdecks mixer

Pepperdecks mixer does not require any additional power source

Connect the cable from AV connection to Audio out on Pepperdecks mixer to PL socket in Beolap 7 speaker

Connect USB charger to the USB cable of the cable from AV connection. This will turn the Beolap 7 speaker on.

 

The Beolab will be on all the time and just mix the sound coming from CCA with whatever is coming from BV7.

 

As mentioned. I've done it with Beosound 2300, CCA and BL4000.

 

I do not know if the TV is "detecting" the BL7 and only sends the audio signal if a full PL cable is connected.

 

I can test it if you want. I still have the mixer and cable somewhere.

 

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steve1977 replied on Sat, Feb 16 2019 5:02 AM
Ravsted:

Hi,

I removed the piece of steel which is spot welded into the middle of the case by a combination of

- drilling the spot welds

- hammer and chisel (between steel plate and chassis)

- rocking the piece of steel back and forth until it breaks.

Need some more help for the “surgery” ;)

I can see how the steel is welded at three different parts of the case (side wall, middle bottom, right bottom).

I may have already done the drilling part? Did you just use the hammer or chisel at the stage i’m at now? Which of the three did you start with? ice been trying a bit, but the weld seems quite solid. May require quite some force to eventually break it?

Also, i still have “pins” in the bottom of the case. I’m thinking to keep them unless you have an easy solution? is that what you used the grinder for?

Photo below should help to better explain my issue...

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Hiort replied on Sat, Feb 16 2019 9:46 PM
Really like the E8 2.0.

Nice with the aluminum in the case.

 

 

 

 

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Hiort replied on Sun, Feb 17 2019 3:36 PM
Changed my BS1 for a BS1 MK2.

Better sound and Google Assitant.

Nice box too. The MK1 had only a regular cardboard box.

 

 

 

 

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Johan replied on Sun, Feb 17 2019 6:30 PM

Nice upgrade Hiort!

I upgrade a little bit too (a bit more vintage though) - replaced the BeoLab 3500 in the kitchen with a BeoLink Active and a pair of steel grey BeoLab 4000s. Sounds better! And works well with BeoMaster 6500 through a converter.

Some images (also of the cables that gave a bit of frustration as I soldered them wrong (mirrored) first time:

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Hiort replied on Mon, Feb 18 2019 11:19 AM

Well done Johan! The BL4000 are real classic speakers and still look so contemporary. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Not B&O but definitely Jacob Jensen's Design Big Smile
(I had it for years without even knowing!)

 


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Michael replied on Tue, Feb 19 2019 11:24 PM
matador43:

Not B&O but definitely Jacob Jensen's Design (I had it for years without even knowing!)

It’s neither. It’s by Swedish Sigvard Bernadotte and danish Acton Bjørn.
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trackbeo replied on Tue, Feb 19 2019 11:41 PM

The Jensens' website (https://jacobjensendesign.com/rosti-mepal) claims the Rosti job was assigned to Jacob, B&B's young employee.

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Sure, Jacob Jensen did that for the B&B’s....who worked for Rosti.

We have one at home - and knew that all the time.

However, noone knows what really happened in the atudio back then, I guess.

MM

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matador43 replied on Wed, Feb 20 2019 3:01 PM

Millemissen:
and knew that all the time.

Then your surprise wasn't as great as mine when i found that! Smile

Millemissen:
However, noone knows what really happened in the atudio back then, I guess.

Nobody can tell which unknown assistant is behind each great signature.
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Michael replied on Thu, Feb 21 2019 6:31 PM
trackbeo:

The Jensens' website (https://jacobjensendesign.com/rosti-mepal) claims the Rosti job was assigned to Jacob, B&B's young employee.

Wow, sorry I was wrongly informed. Nice to read!
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OldJack replied on Fri, Feb 22 2019 11:54 AM

Listening to new H6.Audience tributes page 3,Sun magazine.

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Duels replied on Fri, Feb 22 2019 1:14 PM
OldJack:

Listening to new H6.Audience tributes page 3,Sun magazine.

Beogram 6500 MMC2,Beosound Ouverture,2xBeolab 8000,2xBelolab 4000,Beolab 2,Beolab 7.2,Beo4 navi, 2xBeocom2,Serene,Beosystem 3 mk3,H6 2nd gen,Earphones A8,Keyring,Bottle opener,Wine Set,4Ktv Samsung 55'',Beolab 7.1 with 42''Panasonic plasma,Oppo udp-203, LinTronic.

If you placed them a little lower you could keep the ladies a bit warmer. Wink
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I doubt that the A8 would help there 🙃

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OldJack replied on Fri, Feb 22 2019 1:28 PM

Millemissen:

I doubt that the A8 would help there 🙃

MM

Noooooo....no piercing allowedSmile

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Michael replied on Fri, Feb 22 2019 11:53 PM

Dear friends,

Today I got a pair of H9i. Here’s a few photos with them and my H6’s from when they came out. Had them and loved them for many years. Now mainly in my study. Been using H8 and AirPods on the move. The H9i’s is something completely different, but so much like the H6 that I love. The sound is so much more vivid, wide, detailed and strong. Brighter noises gets sharp but not exaggerated sound, subtle noises come through subtle and not exaggerated. Base is deep and unobtrusive. There when it should be and not otherwise. It’s almost unbelievable. I’m very surprised and I seldom get surprised anymore. The depth, detail and energy of the sound they recreate is a joy to listen to.

They also sit comfortably on my head without hurting my ears like my H8 did. The ANC feature is much improved and it’s almost impossible now to hear if it is on or not. Walking in a windy street I hear no microphone noise and turning on the new transparency mode let me hear exactly how much wind they take away. But even with ANC turned off they’re well closed from the outside world. I’m very impressed. I really like them.

I also like how they resemble H6 so very much but still differ a lot too. The H6 anodized metal is lighter in size and color and I like it but H9i is a different beast. Slightly heavier but ever so comfortable. I’m in love.
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rfc1 replied on Sat, Feb 23 2019 12:08 AM

Beosystem 6500.   

 

 

 

Beosystem 6500.

Ouverture,

Beosound 8.

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OldJack replied on Sat, Feb 23 2019 12:31 AM

I really loved my Sennheiser Pink Floyd edition.Aestethically and musically.Until my nephew saw it.Parted  as his birthday present.

As a replacement,preferring everything wired,chosen H6,Missing some bass details and slightly brighter treble,but overall good choice.Looking good as well.

 

 

 

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Duels replied on Sat, Feb 23 2019 8:48 AM
OldJack:

I really loved my Sennheiser Pink Floyd edition.

Just googled them. They look awesome. Now that’s how to do a special edition!

(I might be a little influenced by the pink floyd reference though. )
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CB replied on Sat, Feb 23 2019 9:06 AM
Michael:
Here’s a few photos with them and my H6’s from when they came out.

Beautiful photos Michael Yes - thumbs up

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PK replied on Mon, Feb 25 2019 10:30 AM

My livingroom setup with Horizon on wheelstand (love it) and beolab 2. 

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Michael replied on Mon, Feb 25 2019 2:57 PM
PK:

My livingroom setup with Horizon on wheelstand (love it) and beolab 2.

Love the flos taraxacum
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kallasr replied on Sat, Mar 2 2019 12:50 PM

Finally got the vinyl looking CD-Rs loaded with music...

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