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Solidsnake posted on Sun, Dec 11 2016 12:39 AM

I received the new Beovision Avant NG 55" and first impressions are very good. I've had the first generation since launch and this version certainly makes 4K much more accessible. The android system is taking a bit of getting used to but I think it is a small improvement on B&O's previous system. I can also confirm that the backlight panel for the 55" has been updated to a direct type panel, unlike the original which was edge lit.  I certainly welcome the improvement, no more uneven lighting from the sides of the tv screen.  It was thought that it would require a new redesigned stand but it does not and can fit on the old stand   The back of the tv has been redesigned, inputs have been moved around a bit.  There are no design differences in the front   

I was attempting to find a full hands-on review with calibration and can't find anything for the NG or the Beovision 14. Is it weird that there are no proper reviews online for either tv?  Any reviews online are just first impressions or rehashes of the press release from B&O. 

Has anyone managed to do a proper picture calibration on an Avant NG or 14?

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Hi SS

In answer to your question, I haven't, but I am pleased to read what you wrote.  

I was reading your comments out over breakfast and someone here goes "Oh thats what I didn't like about the Avant too - the uneven lighting from the sides" - I hadn't even noticed haha.  So an improvement of the screen is a good thing.  

I think at the store they said that it was going to be edge lit - maybe they didn't know.  

Its nice to know the existing stands all work, as they do on the BV11/14.  I think thats the case for the 55 size but I don't know about the 75 or 85 size?  

Have you tried doing the calibration for the (your) existing (outgoing) Avant?  

Have you kept both?  Or did you trade or sell the other?

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Hi,

I've just ordered an Avant 55, but not the NG model. The dealer told me the 1.5 model would be the one I should go for, stating that the NG model was "buggy". I just hope I've made the right choice...

Frank

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I'd be very suspicious of what your dealer has said, and in selling you an older TV. I'm not doubting it might be buggy but that can be easily fixed whereas a new generation panel obviously can't.

As for calibration, I thought it was done at the factory.

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elephant replied on Sun, Dec 11 2016 11:09 AM
Chris Townsend:

I'd be very suspicious of what your dealer has said, and in selling you an older TV.

I agree [:\'(]

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Robert replied on Sun, Dec 11 2016 11:14 AM

This is the only review I know, from August 2016 BeoVision 14

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1470814032

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Aussie Michael:

Hi SS

In answer to your question, I haven't, but I am pleased to read what you wrote.  

I was reading your comments out over breakfast and someone here goes "Oh thats what I didn't like about the Avant too - the uneven lighting from the sides" - I hadn't even noticed haha.  So an improvement of the screen is a good thing.  

I think at the store they said that it was going to be edge lit - maybe they didn't know.  

Its nice to know the existing stands all work, as they do on the BV11/14.  I think thats the case for the 55 size but I don't know about the 75 or 85 size?  

Have you tried doing the calibration for the (your) existing (outgoing) Avant?  

Have you kept both?  Or did you trade or sell the other?

Kind regards

Michael

 

Yes, it is definitely direct type rather than edge lit.  B&O have updated the technical specs on their website to confirm.  

As for picture calibration of my original Avant.  There were a few full reviews and calibration recommendations from places like flatpanelshd.com  I found their one particularly good for getting a very natural picture.  Unfortunately I can't find any such in depth reviews of B&O's new TVs.  Maybe they didn't give any out for review?

Regarding my original Avant, I've actually had three since launch.  I've sent each of them back due to faults.  The first one had smudges and marks all under the glass of the screen.  The second one developed a kind of fogging up in numerous areas around the edge, beneath the glass of the screen over time and again looked like smudges.  And the third one had a cluster of black, like dead pixels right in the middle of the screen. So I said I don't want another MKI and I'd rather wait to get the NG as a replacement.  

So far first impressions are that it is a more refined version of the Avant.  4K from YouTube or PS4Pro just works and looks wonderful. YouTube app is all new and allows you to choose quality now, up to 4K.  And in the TV settings it actually tells you the resolution you're looking at - unlike the original. It is a little buggy but nothing that I wouldn't expect to be fixed in next update. The interface I find a bit more responsive than the original and I much prefer the satellite TV guide which has been updated with channel logos and other visual enhancements.  

Out of the box I find some of the same picture artefacts and things I don't like.  Some weird ghosting on anything moving fast on screen, just like the original.  This must be caused by some of B&O's processing as when I turn on Monitor picture mode (which disables all processing and delivers raw picture) there are no artefacts or ghosting any more.  So I have lot of calibration to do and will report back.  It would be nice though if there were proper reviews out there.

 

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Bv7Mk3 replied on Sun, Dec 11 2016 1:27 PM
Any HDR on this one!?
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Robert:

This is the only review I know, from August 2016 BeoVision 14

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1470814032

This isn't an actual review. It's just listing the press release stuff.  There's nothing about actual experience with the tv.  Nothing about how it performs etc.  This is the weird thing with B&O's new TV's, there doesn't seem to be any in depth reviews. 

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Unfortunately and inexplicably no. 

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Solidsnake:

Unfortunately and inexplicably no. 

Regarding HDR

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Solidsnake:

Yes, it is definitely direct type rather than edge lit. B&O have updated the technical specs on their website to confirm.

As for picture calibration of my original Avant. There were a few full reviews and calibration recommendations from places like flatpanelshd.com I found their one particularly good for getting a very natural picture. Unfortunately I can't find any such in depth reviews of B&O's new TVs. Maybe they didn't give any out for review?

Regarding my original Avant, I've actually had three since launch. I've sent each of them back due to faults. The first one had smudges and marks all under the glass of the screen. The second one developed a kind of fogging up in numerous areas around the edge, beneath the glass of the screen over time and again looked like smudges. And the third one had a cluster of black, like dead pixels right in the middle of the screen. So I said I don't want another MKI and I'd rather wait to get the NG as a replacement.

So far first impressions are that it is a more refined version of the Avant. 4K from YouTube or PS4Pro just works and looks wonderful. YouTube app is all new and allows you to choose quality now, up to 4K. And in the TV settings it actually tells you the resolution you're looking at - unlike the original. It is a little buggy but nothing that I wouldn't expect to be fixed in next update. The interface I find a bit more responsive than the original and I much prefer the satellite TV guide which has been updated with channel logos and other visual enhancements.

Out of the box I find some of the same picture artefacts and things I don't like. Some weird ghosting on anything moving fast on screen, just like the original. This must be caused by some of B&O's processing as when I turn on Monitor picture mode (which disables all processing and delivers raw picture) there are no artefacts or ghosting any more. So I have lot of calibration to do and will report back. It would be nice though if there were proper reviews out there.

I'm too on my third Avant, but I got it replaced early this year and that one has been flawless. I am curious, do you think I should upgrade? I'm not really happy about android tv but maybe it works.. I've read a lot of reports of the system being buggy and I don't find my set buggy at all. I can see some light bleed but it's not bad. My old Avant had much of it but my current one is quite solid.

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Solidsnake:

Unfortunately and inexplicably no.

I don't want to keep droning on about this, but to sell a Tv at £7-8,000 that doesn't even the main UHD advantage in HDR is madness. It's like selling a £100,000 Range Rover that only comes in 2 wheel drive.

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Chris Townsend:

I don't want to keep droning on about this, but to sell a Tv at £7-8,000 that doesn't even the main UHD advantage in HDR is madness. It's like selling a £100,000 Range Rover that only comes in 2 wheel drive. Beovision 7-55 Mk2, Avant RF 28, Beolab 9, Beolit 15, Beoplay A1/A2, Beocom 2, Beotime, H3 ANC/H8/H6/H2, Form 2, Beoplay A3, Beovision 5-42 connected to a DVD1

Correct. Even iPhone has HDR and it really gives you beautiful hues and shades.

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