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paolomariano Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2016 11:18 PM
https://vimeo.com/156303074

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Jun 1 2016 11:23 PM

Very nice. Wish it were real and not just a concept.

 

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Razlaw:

Very nice. Wish it were real and not just a concept.

It seems that we will soon see a product based on the same form factor... Smile (although not with all these features)
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Paul W replied on Thu, Jun 2 2016 12:55 AM

But why oh why would you want something like that? It's souless. It's not a dead projection. There's no tactile buttons to touch and feel. I hate the idea. It's cold and impersonal. 

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Jeff replied on Thu, Jun 2 2016 1:38 AM

Uber cool, like something out of a scifi movie. An elegant way to implement a mood wheel and such without a tablet.

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Love it! I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Totally B&O. Hope to see it on the shelves sometime soon.

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I like the idea but it looks like an upside down foam cup from the future. 

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Like it. Radical. They need to make it out of aluminium, glass or wood rather than looking plasticky.

Let's hope it works when released and isn't disabled for two years down the line by cyclical software updates that render it semi-operational and a massive irritation followed by unhelpful B&O replies that someone else like Deezer, Spotify are to blame and its out of their control.
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Watch the original vimeo. Notice how all those light projections show on the hand from some projection point above?

Notice that ugly bracket bolted to the rear of the table but mostly kept out of shot? Does it carry a laser projector?

This interesting concept is surely not quite what it seems.

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tph replied on Thu, Jun 2 2016 9:02 AM

I was quite pleasantly surprised to find a thread about this concept and I love reading your thoughts on it so far. I am one of the students of the group who created and built this prototype, and I thought I'd explain a little bit why it is how it is.

vikinger:

Watch the original vimeo. Notice how all those light projections show on the hand from some projection point above?

Notice that ugly bracket bolted to the rear of the table but mostly kept out of shot? Does it carry a laser projector?

This interesting concept is surely not quite what it seems.

Graham

The course was called Interactive Prototyping, so the purpose of this project was not to create a nice-looking, polished and fully functional prototype that would resemble a real product, but instead the aim was to create very rough "tape-to-a-table" prototypes that would be enough for showcasing some of the core interactions and features of the concept.

This is why you see the ugly bracket in the video – it was literally a five-minute weld job out of waste materials and we taped up the projector and a camera to do the projection + motion capture. There's also a big bundle of wires coming out of the cone on the table going to an Arduino, but those were hidden in the gap between the two tables. All of these are connected to a computer running gesture recognition software, Spotify and some custom-written code that allows the different components to talk to each other. 

If this concept was to be taken further, all of the different components would of course be integrated into the cone itself but as I said, that wasn't the point on this course.

We had a designer from Bang & Olufsen visit us several times in Helsinki to see our progress and give feedback, and from what he told us, the different concepts created during the course were met with excitement in the mothership.

 

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tph:

I was quite pleasantly surprised to find a thread about this concept and I love reading your thoughts on it so far. I am one of the students of the group who created and built this prototype, and I thought I'd explain a little bit why it is how it is.

The course was called Interactive Prototyping, so the purpose of this project was not to create a nice-looking, polished and fully functional prototype that would resemble a real product, but instead the aim was to create very rough "tape-to-a-table" prototypes that would be enough for showcasing some of the core interactions and features of the concept.

This is why you see the ugly bracket in the video – it was literally a five-minute weld job out of waste materials and we taped up the projector and a camera to do the projection + motion capture. There's also a big bundle of wires coming out of the cone on the table going to an Arduino, but those were hidden in the gap between the two tables. All of these are connected to a computer running gesture recognition software, Spotify and some custom-written code that allows the different components to talk to each other.

If this concept was to be taken further, all of the different components would of course be integrated into the cone itself but as I said, that wasn't the point on this course.

We had a designer from Bang & Olufsen visit us several times in Helsinki to see our progress and give feedback, and from what he told us, the different concepts created during the course were met with excitement in the mothership.

Best regards,

Tuomas

Wow!! Thank you for posting!!

It was a pleasure! Smile
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That was a quick clarification!

Good luck with your career Tuomas!

Good luck to B&O consolidating everything into a shiny cone.

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vikinger:

Good luck with your career Tuomas!

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Severed_Hand_of_Skywalker:

I like the idea but it looks like an upside down foam cup from the future. 

And if you use a piece of string between 2 of them you have the next BeoCom lol :-) 

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tph:

I was quite pleasantly surprised to find a thread about this concept and I love reading your thoughts on it so far. I am one of the students of the group who created and built this prototype, and I thought I'd explain a little bit why it is how it is.

vikinger:

Watch the original vimeo. Notice how all those light projections show on the hand from some projection point above?

Notice that ugly bracket bolted to the rear of the table but mostly kept out of shot? Does it carry a laser projector?

This interesting concept is surely not quite what it seems.

Graham

The course was called Interactive Prototyping, so the purpose of this project was not to create a nice-looking, polished and fully functional prototype that would resemble a real product, but instead the aim was to create very rough "tape-to-a-table" prototypes that would be enough for showcasing some of the core interactions and features of the concept.

This is why you see the ugly bracket in the video – it was literally a five-minute weld job out of waste materials and we taped up the projector and a camera to do the projection + motion capture. There's also a big bundle of wires coming out of the cone on the table going to an Arduino, but those were hidden in the gap between the two tables. All of these are connected to a computer running gesture recognition software, Spotify and some custom-written code that allows the different components to talk to each other. 

If this concept was to be taken further, all of the different components would of course be integrated into the cone itself but as I said, that wasn't the point on this course.

We had a designer from Bang & Olufsen visit us several times in Helsinki to see our progress and give feedback, and from what he told us, the different concepts created during the course were met with excitement in the mothership.

 

Best regards,

Tuomas

Tuomas, you and your colleagues did a great job on a prototype.  All jokes aside in my above post, it does better from one of my altime favourite products the a9 where the only failing i see is that when you change sources you dont see what you're actually on (source), this type of prototype would aliviate that.

It reminds me of that technology that is used to 'beam' a keyboard (microsoft) and you can use it to type.

Great job. 

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Simonbeo replied on Thu, Jun 2 2016 11:10 AM

Great to see the company working with the interactive prototyping course students on the project!

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tph replied on Thu, Jun 2 2016 12:09 PM

Thanks for all of your kind words, much appreciated Smile 

There's another project we're doing with the company, that's still ongoing and I can't share yet what we've been working on.

This collaboration has been a fun experience for someone like me who's very new to the world of Bang & Olufsen. I don't own any of their products, but I have a feeling that I've caught the BeoBug during this spring... Wink

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ilPadrino replied on Thu, Jun 2 2016 12:10 PM

Cant help but notice the similarities to the picture drawn by Hjort in this thread:

http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/p/20562/169090.aspx#169090

 

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Gatex replied on Thu, Jun 2 2016 12:37 PM

piece of crap concept. These products are destroying the soul of consumer electronics.  Looks like a colour light Micky Mouse Disney Toy for 6 years old. 

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Simonbeo replied on Thu, Jun 2 2016 12:58 PM

Gatex:

piece of crap concept. These products are destroying the soul of consumer electronics.  Looks like a colour light Micky Mouse Disney Toy for 6 years old. 

Colour could be linked as on moment to a mood light. And the interaction as Jean-Michel Jarre light harp?

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Gatex:

piece of crap concept. These products are destroying the soul of consumer electronics.  Looks like a colour light Micky Mouse Disney Toy for 6 years old. 

Three steps of development in design (and life too)

Primitive

Complicated

Simple

This product is complicated until now, but that's development.

By the way: A visit in the R&D department in Struer showed some very ugly and complicated concepts of later simple and good products ...

 

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Duels replied on Thu, Jun 2 2016 3:33 PM
Gatex:

piece of crap concept. These products are destroying the soul of consumer electronics. Looks like a colour light Micky Mouse Disney Toy for 6 years old.

It's nowhere near a finished product.
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Duels:
Gatex:

 

piece of crap concept. These products are destroying the soul of consumer electronics. Looks like a colour light Micky Mouse Disney Toy for 6 years old.

 

 

It's nowhere near a finished product.

He did say concept but hasn't shown the potential for form and materials to deliver it. The concept lacks haptic qualities but as a starting point it's interesting.

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CB replied on Thu, Jun 2 2016 5:38 PM

Aussie Michael:
It reminds me of that technology that is used to 'beam' a keyboard (microsoft) and you can use it to type.

http://www.lightinthebox.com/icyberry-laser-projection-virtual-keyboard-for-iphone-smartphone-laptop-or-tablet_p1933281.html

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BeoBoy68 replied on Thu, Jun 2 2016 10:25 PM
Congrats for the students Yes - thumbs up

Nice integration of pattern play and mood wheel Smile

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tph replied on Fri, Jun 3 2016 9:10 PM

Whatever you may think of it, I do encourage to look beyond the physical prototype you see on the video: that the prototype in itself is not the concept, but just a way to exhibit and evaluate ideas behind it – in this case, how extending the display and interaction outside the physical bounds of a music player device might work. If you hate how the moodwheel looks or if you think the cardboard construction is ugly, that's fine, so do we. The important thing when looking at stuff at this stage of development is to know that this isn't the end of it and always imagine what it would be like on the next level.

That's how any design process works – you never turn out nice-looking, shiny things from the get-go. Mockups and prototypes are for sparring imagination and to help develop your ideas further. Eventually you get to the point where it starts to make sense to judge the physical prototypes from an aesthetic/material point of view, but this particular project is not at that stage, it's an early tech/UX demo.

This isn't directed to anyone in particular and I don't mean that it's not OK to think our work is hideous – I'm trying to shed some light into how we as designers tend to approach these things, which is often different from how other people (potential end users or customers) see them Smile

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Gatex:

piece of crap concept. These products are destroying the soul of consumer electronics.  Looks like a colour light Micky Mouse Disney Toy for 6 years old. 

Three steps of development in design (and life too)

Primitive

Complicated

Simple

This product is complicated until now, but that's development.

By the way: A visit in the R&D department in Struer showed some very ugly and complicated concepts of later simple and good products ...

Exactly that. You rarely see a Bang & Olufsen product at the stage of evolution where the Orbit is (The Art of Impossible book has many, highly recommended). And so often a concept gets partly or entirely scrapped at some point because it turns out it doesn't make sense from the design point of view or is simply infeasible to produce.
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mjmedlo replied on Fri, Jun 3 2016 9:20 PM
I like it.

Nice use of the world around us.

I hope it's a suggestion of things to come.
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I think your design ideas and concept to date is fantastic and I congratulate you and your team colleagues. I suggest ignoring the negative comments, which frankly are rude and unconstructive. You guys have created something special. Well done and keep up the good work. Simon.

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Jeff replied on Sat, Jun 4 2016 3:27 PM

BAND'OH!:

I think your design ideas and concept to date is fantastic and I congratulate you and your team colleagues. I suggest ignoring the negative comments, which frankly are rude and unconstructive. You guys have created something special. Well done and keep up the good work. Simon.

Agree completely, it's a stunning concept, fresh, original, and out of the box thinking. And with the improved cosmetics that would come with a move to production it would be the first thing that tripped my "I have to own that!" since I first saw my Beosound 9000.

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Jeff:

Agree completely, it's a stunning concept, fresh, original, and out of the box thinking. And with the improved cosmetics that would come with a move to production it would be the first thing that tripped my "I have to own that!" since I first saw my Beosound 9000.

Jeff

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Jeff, I completely agree with you.

What really makes B&O different and by far better than any other hi-fi brand is their capacity to innovate in a way that allows them to be anyway faithful to their roots. And I think that this concept embraces exactly this philosophy, producing an incredibly new customer experience. Such experience, although extremely innovative, seems to be perfectly intuitive and magic at the same time.

Such interface, if well implemented, could become the signature of B&O next generation products.

Smile
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CB replied on Sat, Jun 4 2016 8:40 PM

paolomariano:
Such experience, although extremely innovative, seems to be perfectly intuitive and magic at the same time.

Clarke's third law
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
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CB:

Clarke's third law Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

Wow!! That's true!! Thanks for sharing
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