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Razlaw replied on Wed, Mar 25 2015 3:35 PM
If I am tempted to buy a pair of Beolab 20s to replace my 9s, should I wait?

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Sal replied on Wed, Mar 25 2015 3:49 PM

Razlaw:

If I am tempted to buy a pair of Beolab 20s to replace my 9s, should I wait?

What if the rumors about the price aren't faulty, according to some these new beasts will be 4x the price of the 20s.

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Nearly correct on price, and a limited edition run to boot. To start with anyway.

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Puncher replied on Wed, Mar 25 2015 8:29 PM

Maybe they should be though of as B&O's Veyron, a technical tour de force demonstrating the state of the art and what is technically feasible in speaker design and production!

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Mar 25 2015 8:39 PM

Sal:

Razlaw:

If I am tempted to buy a pair of Beolab 20s to replace my 9s, should I wait?

What if the rumors about the price aren't faulty, according to some these new beasts will be 4x the price of the 20s.

As it is all just rumor now, hard to know what the price will be, assuming there even is a new speaker. Rumors by their nature can be far from the truth. If the new speakers do appear, and if they are 4 times the price of 20s, I would not be able to purchase a pair. But I would not want to purchase 20s only to have something much better come out and be priced not too much more than 20s.

 

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Paul W replied on Wed, Mar 25 2015 8:44 PM

Razlaw, it seriously IS NOT a rumour. 

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Bv7Mk3 replied on Wed, Mar 25 2015 8:54 PM
If that's so will make the lab 5 look much more of a bargain!
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Simonbeo replied on Wed, Mar 25 2015 9:11 PM

Bv7Mk3:
If that's so will make the lab 5 look much more of a bargain!

This sounds like the Bugatti Veyron of speakers, to create press coverage and extreme image as well as some big speakers. Top Trumps time!

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If these speakers are positioned in the audiophile reference class the 40.000€ are ok. It's the same price as a pair of Linn 350A.

But it is to be feared, that in press they never get a 100% Rating, even if they would be worth.....

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BeoBoy68 replied on Wed, Mar 25 2015 10:38 PM

@ Razlaw

Let's buy a pair of BeoLab 20 instead of torturing your head for weeks ! Stick out tongue

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BeoBoy68 replied on Wed, Mar 25 2015 10:49 PM

Beolab:

Many rumours here, and most of it are faulty, but you are going to be informed with more details later this year.

You are not going to be disappointed.

 

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you learn us nothing.

Instead of sadistically torturing us

say what you know. Share ! Stick out tongue

 

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Mar 25 2015 11:24 PM
I asked a dealer about this rumor a few weeks ago. Response was that dealer had heard nothing about new speakers. I was also told he had even contacted B and O and asked about these rumored speakers. I was told no new speakers this year.

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TWG replied on Thu, Mar 26 2015 6:11 AM

@BeoBoy68: Why can't B&O get the white frets right??? On every speaker the same cheap look of the underneath structure... common, we have the year 2015! :)

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tournedos replied on Thu, Mar 26 2015 7:30 AM

Razlaw:
I asked a dealer about this rumor a few weeks ago. Response was that dealer had heard nothing about new speakers. I was also told he had even contacted B and O and asked about these rumored speakers. I was told no new speakers this year.

Did you really think you would get any other answer?

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TWG:

I really pray for Bang & Olufsen. They need a big hit!

 

They do. However a 50K Euro speaker pair will not be a big hit. 

Too long to list.... 

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beopiranha:

New drivers! New speakers possibly will have 7400 W each! 

So the mains plug will look like this then? 

 

Too long to list.... 

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bayerische:
They do. However a 50K Euro speaker pair will not be a big hit. 

It's more for the publicity that it will create...

Clothes designer don't make money on the Haute Couture dress they sell at astronomical prices, they make money on the millions of bottle of perfume they sell to people that want to buy a bit of this designer's image.

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PhilLondon:

bayerische:
They do. However a 50K Euro speaker pair will not be a big hit. 

It's more for the publicity that it will create...

Clothes designer don't make money on the Haute Couture dress they sell at astronomical prices, they make money on the millions of bottle of perfume they sell to people that want to buy a bit of this designer's image.

Apples and Oranges really. We already have a Tour de Force that outplays everything else on the market at it's price, the Beolab 5's. B&O's marketing department can mess up selling air on Mars to stranded astronauts. 

I welcome the Beolab X, however I just hope the developing costs (must be massive) won't make the hole in the hull of the M/S B&O even bigger. 

Too long to list.... 

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Razlaw replied on Thu, Mar 26 2015 11:22 AM
tournedos:

Did you really think you would get any other answer?

--mika

Yes

As if the rumor is true, given the number of people here who claim to have knowledge of the speakers it would appear that there is no big secret about them.

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Roger replied on Mon, Mar 30 2015 9:17 AM

The new flagship speaker is now shown to some dealers - in its final design. They appear larger than the BL5, but not as tall as, say, the BL18. It also looks like they have a very large number of speakers, covering 360 deg and maybe leaving ALT all together. They do look like something that is hard to describe with words, very different to the current BL5. The final price and release date are still not known (to met), but the guesstimates given are in the same ballpark: late this fall and 40-50k $/€/£.

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Hallo Roger,

Good informations from you as always,

Your 360 statement, does that mean a lot of new spearkers are on the way?

Replacement for Beolab 3?

Does the 360 look good in your opinion?

Is WISA, PHONE, OPTICAL standart in alle new speaker?

Is the new high-end model with sound calibration?

What material is it made in?

 

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Wilderwein replied on Mon, Mar 30 2015 10:48 AM

Thank you for the information. The 360 feature seems a bit odd thinking what b&o thought about acoustics before. Maybee the new dsp is more powerful so they can compensate for this and get advantage insted. Or maybe the purpose of this speakers arent best possible sound in front of them. We have to wait and see. 

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Jonathan replied on Tue, Mar 31 2015 1:40 AM

Hopefully B&O make them simple to connect to other brands, the days of struggling with various cables belongs in the dark ages (sorry Steve@SoundsHeavenly)

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Jonathan:

Hopefully B&O make them simple to connect to other brands, the days of struggling with various cables belongs in the dark ages (sorry Steve@SoundsHeavenly)

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Agreed.

And I do hate to bring up Apple but they really took off once they ditched proprietary power pc for Intel and integration with windows. Proprietary connections are just an unnecessary barrier to entry.
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Aussie Michael:

Proprietary connections are just an unnecessary barrier to entry.

I guess with proprietary, you mean the PowerLink connection?

The PL connection was made to have the advantage of a line level signal and the volumen controlling as well as turning on/off.

You don't find that in any conventional audio connection.

Please do remember that volumen controlling (by an active speaker) is best done directly in the speaker/the built-in amp.

How would you do that without a 'proprietary connection'?

The BL 5 had a seperate built-in volumen control (with a proprietary remote - the Beo4).

Maybe the new 'big one' could be controlled in that way too, if used with non B&O pre-amp gear (and supposedly a digital connection).

Which connection would you propose for a 'universal' way of hooking the speaker up?

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Millemissen:

I guess with proprietary, you mean the PowerLink connection?

The PL connection was made to have the advantage of a line level signal and the volumen controlling as well as turning on/off.

You don't find that in any conventional audio connection.

Please do remember that volumen controlling (by an active speaker) is best done directly in the speaker/the built-in amp.

How would you do that without a 'proprietary connection'?

The BL 5 had a seperate built-in volumen control (with a proprietary remote - the Beo4).

Maybe the new 'big one' could be controlled in that way too, if used with non B&O pre-amp gear (and supposedly a digital connection).

Which connection would you propose for a 'universal' way of hooking the speaker up?

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

Yes I do mean PL. I did forget about the on and off lol. So I am happy to have those but with other industry connections for normal equipment.

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Jeff replied on Fri, Apr 3 2015 3:19 PM

Roger:

The new flagship speaker is now shown to some dealers - in its final design. They appear larger than the BL5, but not as tall as, say, the BL18. It also looks like they have a very large number of speakers, covering 360 deg and maybe leaving ALT all together. They do look like something that is hard to describe with words, very different to the current BL5. The final price and release date are still not known (to met), but the guesstimates given are in the same ballpark: late this fall and 40-50k $/€/£.

Roger

Interesting. With many drivers, DSP, and individual ICE amps, it should be possible to make a speaker with whatever directivity and power response you want, and even to tailor it to a particular room with room measurements similar to the bass alignment the BL5 uses. Of course then your wife will rearrange the furniture and you'll have to do it all over again.

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Perfect for a listening room, where the wife has no saying.

I prefer a speaker, that I/we can live with and listen to almost from everywhere.....regardless of the wife's need for rearranging the furniture.

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If my wife was in charge of the furniture, all you would find is a lazy boy chair and two pairs of Beolab 5'sYes - thumbs up

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koning replied on Fri, Apr 3 2015 6:04 PM

I prefer a speaker, that I/we can live with and listen to almost from everywhere.

 

That doesn't excist.

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Jeff replied on Fri, Apr 3 2015 6:27 PM

Chris Townsend:
If my wife was in charge of the furniture, all you would find is a lazy boy chair and two pairs of Beolab 5'sYes - thumbs up

Lucky man!

There's a joke about a guy who finally got married. He's down in the basement packing his hunting gear up and his wife walks in and says:

"Darling, I think you should give up hunting and fishing, sell all your guns and boat and just spend time around the house."

He gets this horrified look on his face and his wife asks "Honey, what's wrong?"

He says, "For a minute there you sounded like my ex-wife."

She says "Ex wife!!! I didn't know you were married before!"

He says "I wasn't."

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360 degree was what I meant when I wrote intelligent speaker! It is really difficult to describe. In Germany this demostration happend around 4 weeks ago. However, nobody has seen the final shape of the speakers yet. B&O presentate just a model of the speakers ;) 

I'm really curious about 7400W!!! 

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Jeff:

. Of course then your wife will rearrange the furniture and you'll have to do it all over again.

Dont have a wife. That's an easier solution DevilCoolBig Smile
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Millemissen:

Aussie Michael:

Proprietary connections are just an unnecessary barrier to entry.

I guess with proprietary, you mean the PowerLink connection?

The PL connection was made to have the advantage of a line level signal and the volumen controlling as well as turning on/off.

You don't find that in any conventional audio connection.

Please do remember that volumen controlling (by an active speaker) is best done directly in the speaker/the built-in amp.

How would you do that without a 'proprietary connection'?

The BL 5 had a seperate built-in volumen control (with a proprietary remote - the Beo4).

Maybe the new 'big one' could be controlled in that way too, if used with non B&O pre-amp gear (and supposedly a digital connection).

Which connection would you propose for a 'universal' way of hooking the speaker up?

MM

 

For me, the volume would be controlled by the non-B & O preamp (like I have for the BL 3, which I use as rears).  The BL3 also turns on when it senses an input signal.  To me, this is the ideal case.

The BL 7-4 (used as center) is similar except it has to have a trigger line to turn it on.

I have to turn on the BL5 with the remote.  It's not the worst thing to have to do, but having the system described above seems unnecessarily complicated.

I don't know why B & O couldn't make all of the BL speakers like the BL 3 with regard to turning on and off with an input signal with the volume controlled by the preamp.

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I'm sure that some of BnO's work with the Fraunhofer 3D surround algorithm will show up in this model's technology
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Dennis replied on Wed, May 13 2015 4:41 PM

I've heard they are supposed to have 14 drivers each - can anyone confirm this? 

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BillC replied on Wed, May 13 2015 10:03 PM
Very interesting. My dealer said that something will be released in November, it's apparently quite special
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