New product launch - beosound theatre?

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Speaker roles: I would have thought that middle ceiling speaker is a must for Atmos, is this not supported by the Theatre? I have downloaded the user manual but it is limited on information. Questions: 1) does the Theatre support 8K as it is today or will it require hardware updates? 2) which provides best ease of use and control and sound and picture quality, to connect external sources to the Theatre or to the television? 3) can the Theatre control an LG CX? I find the user manual unclear as it states “newer than CX”, does that include or exclude the CX? 4) how many speakers can be wired to the theatre, I see 4 RJ45 powerlink, is it fair to assume 8 speakers? And can one assign any speaker position combination for each RJ45 or will they need to be in pairs i.e. front left and right as opposed to a subwoofer and a center speaker? 5) is the user experience once all is setup easy like BeoVisions normally are so that all members of the family can use the system?
1) Yes it support 8K passthrough (4K 120FPS / 8K 60FPS / 40Gbit ) but note the cable requirements for 8K is quite high and you need an insanely big screen size to benefit the 4*4K :) 2) I don't quite follow 3) CX should be supported I have tested a GX and it works. It should have similar internals as the CX. 4) Yes for wired speakers you can connect 8 speakers (Left Right channel in each powerlink plug). You can either daisy chain (only some beolab speakers support it) else you can buy splitters. Note you can also connect up to 8 wireless over WiSA 5) Sadly I have little to no experience with the old BeoVisions. So hopefully another kind spirit can help you :)
1a) I would have thought that middle ceiling speaker is a must for Atmos, is this not supported by the Theatre?
1b) does the Theatre support 8K as it is today or will it require hardware updates? As far as
2) which provides best ease of use and control and sound and picture quality, to connect external sources to the Theatre or to the television?
3) can the Theatre control an LG CX? I find the user manual unclear as it states “newer than CX”, does that include or exclude the CX?
4a) how many speakers can be wired to the theatre, I see 4 RJ45 powerlink, is it fair to assume 8 speakers?
4b)And can one assign any speaker position combination for these or will they need to be in pairs
5) is the user experience once all is setup easy like BeoVisions normally are so that all members of the family can use the system?
To the best of my current knowledge:- 1a) I would not get too hung-up on the Atmos thing. It is just a trendy Studio Algo to distribute the sound auralally to give a 3D soundstage. The BSTH does a good job but for me, one is not much different than another?? 1b) I dont know about 8K. I hear that the EU in its wisdom has effectively banned 8K because of the significantly greater power consumption. I know both my Eclipse and G2 panel is enough to heat my apartments living space to 21degC!! 2) It depends, but you can connect 3 additional HDMI inputs to the Theatre (HDMI 2 is the eARC to the panel). In my instance, I connect HDMI to the BSTH where I need PUC Control. However, I believe that if you use peripheral equipment with the HDMI-CEC standard, I think it makes no difference where it is connected as it a unifying/integrating standard? I think BSTH/LG G2 Panel have 4 HDMI's each - of which HDMI B/HDMI2 is reserved for eARC comms. 3) I think only the C2 and G2 Panels are supported. With LG, you need to download the B&O LG App to enable remote control via BR1. I dont know if this LG app is compatible with the CX. But you can test this now I think? 4a) the way the Beoapp seems to work is you can add 4 sets of wired speakers and I think 4 pairs of WISA speakers. When I do a quick test to do a new wired speaker config with a BL2 first, I can add only 1 BL90 to the BL2. I cant add a pair. So I imagine you use 1 of 4 connections adding a subwoofer. 4b) When you add a speaker, you add to that speaker 1 extra unit. This can be identical model, a different model (i.e. BL90 - Front Left and BL3 - Front Right) or it can be solo (just a Bl90 Front left) 5. Like all recent Beovision setups, the operating system is involved. Sound modes, Advanced Sound modes,  Listening Positions, Sub Cross-over, distances, steering etc... Also add that you can programme Sound setup to a given source. However, once you have done this, the Beoapp or BR1 makes it very simple to operate. I have added Amazon Music, Prime Video, Netflix, Oppo 103, TV, Radio, Youtube etc....to my system. It all now works with a simple press on the BR1 exactly as I want it. (and more importantly, the Wife gets a device with a simple interaction - on/off/ chan up/down/ vol up/down).    
-The speaker roles are noticeably limited when compared with what’s available on the Beosystem 4. For example, I was going to add more speakers for the Wide roles, but Wide is not an option for external speakers. Also, there is no role for middle hight speakers — only front and back height. The Dolby Atmos setup diagrams provide for the additional “left and right surround 1” roles — a back counterpart to the front “wide” roles. However, those roles are not options.
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Which are the possible ‘Speaker Roles’ at time being? Can you set up the system (the speaker connections) manually and make a micophone calibration after that?
MM
there are two levels to consider. Speaker Roles and Sound mode. Speaker Roles can be edited in terms of positioning (either at listening height, or those above). Sound Roles are TV, Music, Movies, Games, Night and Beosonic. As you drill down to each of these roles, you enter Beosonic/advance to change role tones and ambience. The sound roles can be edited and save but only as the list above . You cannot add/delete these default roles
3) I think only the C2 and G2 Panels are supported. With LG, you need to download the B&O LG App to enable remote control via BR1. I dont know if this LG app is compatible with the CX. But you can test this now I think?
Found CX, C1, C2, GX, G1 and G2 are supported :)


Picked my theatre up yesterday. I am using a Sony A8 panel, so purchased the VESA mount kit and the table stand to allow for fitment.

The instructions are not great if you are attaching a panel, the paper instructions send you to the instal video - which is all well and good but when you need to keep referring back to part of the process it is a faff to keep rewinding a video on your phone. The VESA height guide cardboard wasn't identical to the one in the video either, so it took a couple of attempts at getting the height correct. I'm not 100% happy with the gap between TV and theatre but will need to take it all apart and re-mount the VESA to do this so will see if I can live with it. Also there are bits you miss if you don't watch the video from the start (i.e. you join it where you are in the install process) having moved from the paper instructions. The glossy panel needs the rear half removed so the VESA mount will attach.

Took around 2 hours to set up which was in part due to the VESA issue. But other than that it was a relatively simple process. However the power cable doesn't seem that well seated.

I have some non B&O speakers that I am trying to use with the power link connection, but the unit doesn't recognise these as connected at the moment.

One issue that I seem to have is a noticeable hiss from the unit irrespective of source. Usually only notice it when the output volume is low, but not ideal. Has anyone else noticed this?
How does one get the BeoRemote to work with Apple TV without IR?  HDMI control should do it right? But how I set that up?

Location: Toronto, Canada

The PUC control goes up to Apple TV gen4. I’m not sure if that is the latest model or if there is a later model.

From what I have read on this forum, if a device is HDMI-CEC compliant, it can be natively contolled
Appears it is CEC controllable to a degree…

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205225
Control with HDMI-CEC works well enough. However, once you add the PUC control, the HDMI input gets renamed to "Apple TV" on the Beoremote One and you get a list of functions for the controlled device under "List" on the Beoremote One. There's not much in the list for the Apple TV, but for a device like a Sony UHD player, this List menu comes in really useful.
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