New product launch - beosound theatre?

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I have read all posts with great interest. In the beginning I was really excited about the product and besides the Theatre offering a nice B&O look and strong center channel performance (for true immersive sound consensus seems to be you need the conventional amount of speakers around you) it will provide you with ease of use with the B&O remote we are all used to.

However, I’m beginning to get less excited:

1) The Theatre is limited to be controlled via the app. The app is incredibly buggy and judging by some of the reports in here it prevents the product from performing as intended. Not the ease of use I was hoping for.
2) Control - can work with BeoRemote One if paired with the correct panel. Still the menus are not B&O. I can live with the latter but still…

Currently I use a Canton Smart Connect 5.1 2nd gen (eARC and Atmos) with a LG CX65.  It also has bugs. When you activate eARC you get loud bangs through the speakers when switching material to watch. Also a hissing sound. They have made a new beta sw for me to try so I’m hoping it will resolve it. But it has been a tiresome experience for a product that had so much potential.
Canton is not dependent on an app, is controlled via CEC (or own remote and menus) has AirPlay 2 etc and all the other usual features.
For beoremote i could buy an add on product (third party) so I could control it with a Beo4 or BeoRemote One. For my B&O speakers I could have a BeoSound Core connected at the same time so it would be part of the link system.

It is a shame but I’m struggling with the Theatre as a viable alternative to my current setup. Happy to learn I’m wrong. Was close to pull the trigger but I’m hesitant now. Last B&O tv I purchased which we still have is a BV11-55 which is still a brilliant package but lacks OLED, Atmos and 4K. And as opposed to the Theater if the panel fails it is game over.
It can be a tough decision.  I currently have the BeoSystem 4 as my control center. When I moved to a 4K TV it suddenly it became a little less useful, still worked ok for the audio, but a little more "clunky".  I considered other brands solutions, including Marantz but something inside me prevented me from pulling the trigger, possibly much like you.

Products like the Theatre are heavily dependant on software and it's typically buggy in the beginning.  I'm still fighting software issues with a stereo paired set of Levels.  My Theatre should arrive tomorrow and I am prepared for some software issues.  The Theatre is very expensive (at least for me) and a lot of thought has gone into it to determine if it is the best replacement system. For me the answer is yes.

I'm sure most of the issues with the Theatre will be worked out over time, and then you may get a better feeling if the Theatre is the right replacement system for you.
I might seriously consider it IF the halo’s battery lasted more than 2 days or if it didn’t constantly drop off the network and not respond. It’s a shame it has so much potential and 2 years ago they said more features were coming but it’s still basically fancy volume controller unless you more than double the price. P.S. there is a new version of the Intelligence coming out I hear but no idea on whats new.
thanks for your detailed feedback on the Theatre, I will wait now for sure….
regarding Halo connection and battery life issues, these are usually related to wifi connection settings. My Halo (using with Edge and Stereo paired Level) battery lasts for about a week and connection is stable. I had loads of issues when my wifi router transmitted on both 2.4 and 5ghz using the same SSID’s. Had constant connection losses and battery life maybe 24 hours. After using the Halo on just 2.4ghz band al works fine and stable. Maybe this helps you.
It doesnt surprise me - I have spoken to quite a few dealers and none suggested moving from a harmony 77 to theatre 77 - all suggested keeping the harmony. Theatre is a soundbar first and TV second
Indeed, though thats not very surprising to me.

I imagine most Harmony owners will prefer the unified nature and movement of the more one piece Harmony, especially with its movement. And for all that the Theatre sound is a different animal to the Harmony, setup preferences / decisions are not just about sound alone.

The other factor I suspect dealers are reflecting is the "all app" control / setup / settings of the Theatre - there are no settings that can be brought up on the LG screen, and many have reflected that the setup / settings changing in the app is odd, flaky and not as intuitive as before.

So as upgrades go, the Theatre will clearly be a lot more compelling for those coming from older generation BV's. I'm coming from a BV 12-65 and an Avant 55, so it's a more obvious upgrade in my case.    I have 2 Theatres coming in the next few weeks.

Some of my upgrade excites me - having a OLED screen etc, but some part makes me a bit sad. it will take me some time to get over the garish non-B&O UI on the TV, and secondly my wall mounted Theatre + G series LG will clearly not be Beovisions.

Oh well.
When I had that black ethernet cable in my hands I knew I was not going to use it, what a crap...

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Just a disappointing note to add.  It seems after I connected my front LR speakers the Theatres LR speakers are totally disabled and I cannot assign them to work as centre channel speakers. This is counter to what was being said on here leading to the launch.

I don't really need those speakers it just seems like a huge waste to have 2 speakers dormant all the time.

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Sandyb you are bang on. THis is exactly what BO said about new comers. For me the sound is good as a single speaker but not necessary as a centre speaker - the current harmony sound is more than sufficient.

Have B&O really learnt their lesson re software reliability?

The only downside to the harmony is that the harmony portion of the HDMI is 2.0 rather than 2.1. I have to switch off the HDCP in the PS5 to get it to work in 4k HDR mode

The good thing is that having spoken to Selfridges that support for Mozart speakers eg level speakers are coming next year for recent beovisions - I really hope this is the case.
As with all things I suppose it depends if one is buying or selling

Clearly the harmony needs to be upgraded; comments on beotalk suggest the theatre is far more capable  lets see
Its definitely far more capable on paper - though the Harmony is no slouch, and remember many of those who proclaim the power / capability of the Theatre (and I wouldn't necessarily disagree) also said the Harmony (at launch time) was way more capable than the Eclipse and super impressive sound wise.

If I had a Harmony, and presumably part of that would be because I really liked / lived the design, then I very much doubt I'd be changing to a Theatre setup.   A Harmony with decent surround speakers is already more than enough / very impressive for most living rooms.

The Theatre in my living room setup, with BL50s fronts and BL17s as rears is way way over the line of overkill.  But B&O made something (not criticising) far more than just a centre speaker, which is really what I really only need. But it is what it is, and its time for me to move on from my 12-65 to OLEDs, and I'll swallow the price of the Theatre - especially as I expect it to last long into the future.
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