Grand Prix Moderne Stereo 609 - now with EK 4

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- For two hours...
Then silence again...
Still sensitive to touching the switch bank.
- ?
I tend to get quite hooked on solving strange faults, especially stubborn ones
like this, so back on the bench it went.
Every switch contact was tested for continuity with the meter.
Each and every one of them found to be functioning correctly. Also when warm.
- What is going on here ?

That was when my eyes fell on the bottom cover that was put aside while the set was
on the bench.
Full of holes and with its upper side covered with aluminum foil, it provides
shielding under the high-impedance and high-frequency circuits while allowing for
ventilation to the warm components inside the set.
The aluminum foil had losened and lifted in some areas. A couple of places it even had
little imperfections in the form of raised tears and bends.
Hmm... what if this cover bends upwards ever so slightly and/or the main PCB board bends
downwards the same way when warming up, could one or more of these fairly small
imperfections actually reach up and touch a solder joint or a component on the underside
of the main board ?
Certainly !
And it's aluminum, conductive and electrically connected to the chassis when mounted
so would have a lot of potential for causing a fault like this - or even worse.
The tears were smoothed out and the foil was glued down where it had losened from
the 3mm masonite base of the bottom cover.
While working with the glue, the set was testet without the cover to confirm the diagnose.
Confirmed !
It played fine for hours on the bench so the cover was mounted again and the set
transported to the kitchen once more.

Martin

You didn't catch that little mouse who was sharpening his gold-plated teeth on the octal tube sockets, did you?

They are the ones who always cause these intermittent problems 😕

Martin, you've done a beautiful job!

I also want one of those - but in the meantime, I have to be satisfied with my restored Grundig 4016 - also Stereo! This one took me about a year to do completely.

Menahem

Location: Jerusalem

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Thanks.
Yes, Grundig made wonderful valve sets. Some are quite advanced indeed, I especially
like the equalizer function on this one. Quite extraordinary for a valve set.
They also made "remote controlled" valved sets - cable control that is - but still
putting a distance between them and most other radio producers.

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The Grand Prix was brought up on mains again and this time it played for eight
hours nonstop until switched off for the night.
The whole next evening too.
No further problems were noted.

Martin

Today, just for fun, I did a little setup.
Unfortunately, it ended up showing the limits of the microphones and kitchen
acoustics rather than the capabilities of the Grand Prix but still I managed to
catch a little bit of stereo that I would like to share with you.

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Martin

Nice Martin :)

Sounds very good. I was listening today to my Jet Present 607 which was the subject of one of these threads, and I'm sure you'll be glad to hear that it is still working 100% and giving that unique valve sound to my collection!

Are you keeping this one for your own collection?

Thanks John,

Great to hear that the JET is still doing fine. I still remember the day I
proudly brought it home and it was, and still is, a very nice radio indeed.
Always nice to know that my little "babies" are taken good care of.  😂

I have very limited room for my collection so this Grand Prix and the speakers
will have to go but not until I'm done playing with it.
Besides, even though it may look that way, this thread is not near its end just yet...

Martin

...will look forward to reading the rest Martin :)

 

Hi Martin,

The stereo sounds nice, but I'll bet that it sounds much better right there!

I know that one cannot capture the "tube sound" on mp3.

That's why we're all here spending our time on all this beautiful vintage stuff!!!!! 

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Beoworld is for "Everything Bang & Olufsen" and Beoworld really
does cover a wide range of B&O's product suite but still there are
things that rarely - if ever - gets any mentioning here. Mainly
the vintage things, it seems, so I would like to grab this
opportunity and test the waters for interest;

Having the Grand Prix 609 and speakers running fine now, I was
very curious about the echo-thing and wanted to see what all
the fuzz was about back then some 45 years ago.

B&O produced a couple of echo-units around that time.
The Grand Prix 609 service manual mentions the EK4;

Martin

Gosh Martin! 

You have so much stuff!

 

Andrew

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