BeoSystem 4500 Restoration

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elephant wrote:
exquisite

Much better!! 😂😂

Location: San Francisco

I'm an automotive audio and acoustic engineer. I design loudspeakers and full sound systems for new automobiles. I also dabble with studio, consumer and pro audio projects from time to time.

Hi Evan,

Congratulations on another great thread, I keep stumbling across these great reads, and get inspired. Thank you for creating these threads. I look forward to stumbling across another one. I a thinking of doing something similar to a Beocenter 8000 but I was going to use the stick-on plastic sheets that can be cut and stuck on to the surfaces. When I tackle this project I also hope to create a picture write-up just like this. Your work is inspirational. I do have one question and that is can I get this sticky plastic sheets in Gold, as I really like the idea of Black and Gold as a classy and unique colour scheme which is rarely seen on B&O equipment. Hope to hear fro you soon Buddy.

Nidul

Thanks Nidul!! Glad these old threads are still enjoyable.

I have organized all of my projects with direct links in my profile, for everyone.

As far as the material you are looking for, I'm sure it is available, I just don't know of any. However, if you re-read the thread carefully you will notice a few other members have posted links to companies who produce such products.

If you enjoy working with your hands, I would suggest using paint in your projects as well - there is a great sense of satisfaction that comes with hard work. If your pieces are in mint condition and you want a process that is reversible, proceed with your original plan.

And please, post your progress! All of us here on BeoWorld love these threads. Good luck on your new project!!

Location: San Francisco

I'm an automotive audio and acoustic engineer. I design loudspeakers and full sound systems for new automobiles. I also dabble with studio, consumer and pro audio projects from time to time.

Good evening all,

Sitting down with my 4500 pieces tonight to itemize them for a capacitor change. They started acting up a while ago and could use some attention in the electrical areas - something I neglected during the original restoration work.

Location: San Francisco

I'm an automotive audio and acoustic engineer. I design loudspeakers and full sound systems for new automobiles. I also dabble with studio, consumer and pro audio projects from time to time.

BeoGram CD 4500 (Type 5173) Parts List

Main Board:
4700uF 25v
2200uF 25v
470uF 40v (2x)
10uF 35v (2x)
2.2uF 50v
22uF 16v
1uF 50v (3x)
22uF 10v (2x)
100uF 35v (4x)
220uF 10v
47uF 10v (6x)
3.3uF 50v
5.8uF 25v
47uF 50v

Servo Board:
220uF 16v (2x)
47uF 25v (2x)
1.5uF 50v
33uF 16v (bipolar)

NOTE: The values above are original equipment.

Location: San Francisco

I'm an automotive audio and acoustic engineer. I design loudspeakers and full sound systems for new automobiles. I also dabble with studio, consumer and pro audio projects from time to time.

Evan wrote:
NOTE: The values above are original equipment.

Hi Evan looking forward to see your work advancing;

Did you take the values direct in the BG CD, or from the manual list, if from the list, be careful, its not always the same as in the actual BG.

Location: Mexico city

Retired
Printing machine technician
Restored various 1960-70 items
Rock and Roll music
Collecting Vinyl
Restored Jukebox Wurlitzer 1050

Forgot to tell you, when I get kits from Martin he nearly always provide one voltage step higher on the caps, surfing the net and learning I have seen this same recommondation on more websites, and dont forget your trimmers.

Location: Mexico city

Retired
Printing machine technician
Restored various 1960-70 items
Rock and Roll music
Collecting Vinyl
Restored Jukebox Wurlitzer 1050

Søren Mexico wrote:

Hi Evan looking forward to see your work advancing;

Did you take the values direct in the BG CD, or from the manual list, if from the list, be careful, its not always the same as in the actual BG.

The changeout of the caps in this machine will probably take a while, the 4500 is second in line to my 3000-2!

Yes, I know better than to trust the service manuals 😂 I recorded these values directly from the capacitors.

Location: San Francisco

I'm an automotive audio and acoustic engineer. I design loudspeakers and full sound systems for new automobiles. I also dabble with studio, consumer and pro audio projects from time to time.

Søren Mexico wrote:

Forgot to tell you, when I get kits from Martin he nearly always provide one voltage step higher on the caps, surfing the net and learning I have seen this same recommondation on more websites, and dont forget your trimmers.

 

Yes, this is very good advice. I always do this when recapping. This does seem to be a universal method.

I published the standard values and recommend oversizing. The reason I haven't posted the oversized caps is because I do not want people to double oversize their order and end up with caps that won't fit.

 

By the way, I have also recorded the caps in the BM4500, will post them later tonight. Will also include trimmers.

Location: San Francisco

I'm an automotive audio and acoustic engineer. I design loudspeakers and full sound systems for new automobiles. I also dabble with studio, consumer and pro audio projects from time to time.

BeoMaster 4500 (Type 2963) Parts List

Main Board
6800uF 50v (x2) 32mm h  x 35mm dia.
4700uF 50v 42mm h x 21mm dia.
220uF 100v bipolar
10uF 25v (x2)
10uF 16v (x9)
47uF 40v (x2)
10uF 50v
47uF 16v (x2)
47uF 63v (x2)
22uF 10v (x2)
4.7uF 25v
0.47uF 50v
1uF 50v
250v 5a fuse (x2)
250v 2a fuse

FM Board
10uF 50v
0.68uF 50v
22uF 10v (x2)
10uF 16v (x5)
3.3uF 50v (x2)
100uF 16v
4.7uF 25v (x2)
1uF 50v (x4)
47uF 16v
0.47uF 50v

AM Board
100uF 16v
2.2uF 63v bipolar
4.7uF 16v (x2) bipolar
10uF 63v (x2) bipolar

Microcontroller Enclosure
10uF 16v
470uF 6.3v
100uF 10v (x2) bipolar
3v Li battery CR2450

NOTE:
The above values are original equipment.

This list is incomplete, there are some caps that could not be identified and will be added later. The trimmers and their values will also be added soon.

 

Location: San Francisco

I'm an automotive audio and acoustic engineer. I design loudspeakers and full sound systems for new automobiles. I also dabble with studio, consumer and pro audio projects from time to time.
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