What Are You Working On Now

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Hi fkatze,

That would be indeed a good explanation of the paint weariing off so easily. I did use MoTip primer, but still. it was not great. The powdercoating is staying on really well however. And they first sandblasted the old paint off so I reckon the new coat is nicely holding on to the rough metal surface. Thinking about it: how would a Beo4 with another color body look like :-). Dark blue, or white? I have not seen many beo4s in other colors than black! 

Johan

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Going through a Beomaster 5500 after getting the Master Control Panel going...

This Beomaster is much nicer than the BM5000 I previously learned so much on. It basically worked ok but several of the RCA connectors were loose with broken PCB traces.  Not a concern to me as I use the DIN plugs, but I fixed them anyway.

Replaced the idle current trimmers as a matter of course along with the main power relay and the muting relay which both had high contact resistance,

I eliminated all of the black ROE (derstein) capacitors but none exhibit any leakage and all tested to spec.  The three red ROEs  had 1 too high, 1 too low and 1 just right for capacitance.

The cooling fan board had a black ROE cap which tested OK but the gold axial 68uf tested with leakage. Both were replaced.

 All of the capacitors relating to the 5v standby power were replaced, and a 100nf cap was added to 2TR8 B-E junction.  Due to my previous experience with the BM5000, I replaced the bridge rectifiers, even though the 5500 showed no signs of overheating.

 Interestingly, the  electrolytics on the processor board  tested low capacity, as had the BM5000, which had degraded to the point of not starting.

Also interestingly, the 3v lithium giant coin cell battery is still putting out 3.2v after 35 years.  

As the amplifier and power board is more difficult to remove, I replaced all electrolytics except the giant filter caps which tested good for ESR. 

The very many orange Rubycon caps on the sound and tuner boards can stay for now as they all had good ESR.

Put it all together, turn it on, set the idle current, check some voltages, and.... It just works with no drama, interesting smells, smoke or explosions. Quite unlike the BM5000 learning experience....

 

 

 

 

 

Hi guys,

One of my Beogram 12XX still need a lot of care and because I'm still afraid of tearing it appart (essentially to infuse the bearings) I decide to concentrate on what I think I'm more likely able to do. So, because the lift button disc was missing, I jumped into something I had in mind for month.

Let's start with the bottom of a "Cassoulet" can. Of course you can use any can as long are there is a plain disc of 35 mm wide.
Cut it roughly:

Then, refine the cut to a diameter of 34+ mm.

Then you need to find any screw with the widest head you can; That one comes from an Ikea furniture:

Stick the screw concentric to the disc with (not that) strong double sided tape and mount it on a driller:

Then hold the drill tight, make it spin and use a metal file to round the disc:

Then softly pressing fine sanding paper and spinning the drill, brush the metal:

Before:

After:

Advices for next time: brush the disc first, the concentric pattern will help to center the screw and control the disc is perfectly round when refining with the file. In my attempt, I rounded the disc first, making it slightly off centered because the screw was not precisely installed.

To my great surprise the difficult part was to remove the double side tape from the disc without bending it; don't use too strong adhesive.

Now let's find old decal letter's.

Hope this help.

 

 

Location: Paris France

Now that is what I call upcycling of used packaging material! Nice job 👍

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I have too many projects I need to work on. But at the Moment the real work interrupts my projects.
1. recabling the house (30% done)
2. recreating a Beogram 5000 ( identified abroken Tonearm)
3. BeoSound 3 to DAB+ Radio and Perhaps Bluetooth sound.

Done(-ish) with the Beomaster 5500, it's in service and sounding better than the Beocenter 7700.

So now on to the battered Beogram CD 5500.

This Beogram CD 5500 came to me pre-broken from an eBay seller that had sold it and shipped it without the transport locks engaged and it arrived at the buyer broken. It got shipped back for a refund, likely adding to the damage, and then I bought it as scrap and it got shipped again!

By the time it arrived, the disc transport was thoroughly battered. A pity, the transport locks were safely in the storage holes!

Last week, I got the time to go through it.  Fortunately, only one rail was loose due to a non-replaceable rear mount AND the broken piece was still inside. 

Some industrial epoxy that works well on plastics got the busted rail mount fixed, lots of Windex to clean out the dirty chassis and drive mechanics, a better belt for the disc tray, put it all together, get the mechanical adjustments roughed in and,..... doesnt read the disc,  

Also, sometimes the motor spins backwards!  This sound like power related, so a check at the platter motor connector revealed the -9.5 supply was very erratic. Unplug the motor and the supply seems fine.  Maybe the motor draws too much current?  Out with the mechanism, hook up two 9v batteries, give it a control signal and the motor runs just great.  Put it all back together and track the -9.5v supply and it's sagging right back to the diodes.  Let's see, even the un-rectified AC sags at the diodes! Check at the power transformer and it's fine. Ah-Hah!  cracked solder joint at the main power connector on the main circuit board!  Touch up the pins and...... Still won't read the disc, though the -9.5 rail is now nice and steady like the other voltages. 

The Internet says C2103 is a good likely cause, so check it and the ESR is way high and the capacity is at 22uf instead of the rated 33uf.   Installed the suggested 47uf and... Still no read, except it did just once. 

Out with the servo PCB for another look for bad solder joints and, say, what is that sticky substance all over the bottom?  Perhaps it's bridging the traces and SMDs? Some alcohol and a toothbrush, try again and now it works! sort of.   Move the player just slightly and it conks out.  Still, now that it's running, I set the laser current and the focus offset to no effect. They were pretty close anyway. 

Finally, another Ah-Hah! It seems that "roughing in" the mechanical adjustments just isn't good enough!  Set the disc height and now it runs nicely.

Another Learning Experience! 

 

Almost two years ago I ran across an odd posting on Craigslist... 

Beomaster 1900 for sale - $0.00

So I called, spoke with and met with the owners of a broken Beomaster 1900 that wanted to find it a good home, and not to just be scrapped or recycled.

The sale for Zero money had one condition, that I at least try to repair it and find it a good home.  I accepted the challenge. They seemed relieved that I had previously restored a Beocenter 7700 and showed them pictures and a video of it.

So back home we go and onto the bench.  An initial inspection found some badly deteriorating red ROE caps, burned out bulbs, a dead channel and inoperative sliders.  Close inspection of the slider controls revealed that one was bypassed with jumper wires.  The little plastic feet were long gone, but the cosmetics were pretty good, almost perfect.

So, I ordered up slider repair kits, plastic feet and a bulb set from Beoparts.  In the meantime I recapped the board, replaced the failed parts as well as others that I consider to be at high risk...

 

Snap! Crackle! Pop! goes the Little Red ROEs...., yes several have cracked open!

 

Then I scanned in and recreated some slider masks... the final version looks better than this first example.

 

Around this time, the stuff from Beoparts came in.  Two of the slider were easy to repair but the one that had been  bypassed, the Fader, had only one of the little metal contacts. Uh-oh!   Fortunately, some contacts out of a different type of slider were reasonably compatible.  Drat, I didn't take pictures.

 

So, put it all together, set it up and it ends up working well and looking nice. So, what can I do with it? Nothing much for awhile.  Then, some friends who have a nice Grundig tube console that I helped repair  seem impressed with my Beocenter 7700.  So I bring out the Beomaster 1900 and they love it!

So, if you are reading this, (you know who you are) I fulfilled my end of the bargain. Your Father's Beomaster is restored to good operating condition, is connected to some perfect S45.2s and a Beogram 4002 and has adopted a loving couple to take care of it.

 

 

 

I replaced a noisy and/or vibrating fan with a new Noctua fan in my BeoCenter 6-26. I got the BC for free and gave it some TLC (black cloth on the speaker grille, new speaker rings, new fan and an Apple TV 4 HD). Unfortunately it had no ATV PUC, but I worked around that by using a Humax PUC and teaching the ATV the Humax input :-).

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Orava wrote:

Wonder how many of these I have allready done. Sonewhere between 10, 20?
Usual problems and silent RIAA, broken supply tr. More or less siezed tapedeck, lack of use. And it was all pieces as previous owner has started to "fix" machine. Not complety mint, but everything works.

Hi Orava, I have a Beocenter 9500 with a silant Phono.

Could you give me a hint what usually is giving the problem?
Which are the compnents on Board 53 I need to look at?

The other issue this Beocenter has is a humming sound from the transformer, even in Stand by.
Do you have experienced this too at one of the Centers you fixed?

Kind regards,

Wolfgang

Might be just this one had silent phono, reason shorted C2 on RIAA board. Humming trafos mght be something out of my scope (at least for this time).

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