Leslie, it's very clear that you can't accept that others disagree with you and you can't accept criticism.

Actually, I already decided once not to comment anymore on any of your posts, Leslie.
I did an exception today ONLY to warn other Beogram owners from cleaning their platters.
I've tried cleaning platters myself many years ago and came to the conclusion that they looked stunningly shiny at first but didn't last.
One fingerprint and it's gone.
I never came up with the thought of adding wax to a platter, though, and I dare not think how you did.
I won't add wax to mine, they are fine as per factory.

Wiseguy ?
No, I won't go there.
This will be my last reply to any of your posts, present or future. Hope this makes you happy.

Martin

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Deep breath guys. I enjoy readying the posts on this forum but not when it descends into this sort of stuff. 😳

The Beograms I have, I've used a damp cloth to wipe the platter with and to date have not seen any ill effect from that. However, I have seen a few Beograms where the coating quite clearly has come off, possibly due to being cleaned with a solvent or immersed in water.

Opinion seems to be divided about cleaning the platter. To me, immersing it in soapy water or solvent may work but it does appear to have a risk of affecting the coating.

Gentlemen,

I have seen this before on other audio forums.  We can all be passionate about how things are done (like working on vintage audio equipment).  Whether readers agree with one method of doing a repair over another, the information that comes out of the opposing view discussions is quite useful.  Maybe everyone woke up on the wrong side of the bed today.  In any case, I hope you both continue to contribute to this forum as I have enjoyed what you have shared.

Sonavor

I agree. Differing opinions can be a good thing. You both provide a wealth of information to this forum and it would be a sad day if the forum lost you over something like this.

Lesley and Martin,

Please take one step back, and think clearly about this.  You are both too valuable to let opinions get in the way . And I should know - I have generated much controversy over the years about my own (fairly rigid) methods of restoration. 

Each of you (as do I) have a method, which works in our opinions.  Others may have an alternative method. None of us can return the product to EXACTLY factory-new specifications, for obvious reasons. But a product which looks as-new, and has as-new reliability is a damned-good solution.

Caveats which other members put out about certain methods, are not a condemnation of our own methods, but only a hint of what their experience has taught them. I am very happy to learn from others, and therefore improve my own techniques!

Many of us are sitting here with over 30 years experience in this business. There is little reason to lose our perspective because of another's opinions.

Menahem

Another problem with the original coating is that it will gladly take a yellow tint in a smoker's environment...

Wouldn't it be nice to know the composition of B&O's coating agent? Any spies around?

chartz wrote:

Another problem with the original coating is that it will gladly take a yellow tint in a smoker's environment...

Wouldn't it be nice to know the composition of B&O's coating agent? Any spies around?

Yes, that would indeed be nice to know. 😂
Anyway, if the platter has been damaged already by nicotine discoloration or something else, I suppose there's really nothing to lose.
A replacement platter shouldn't be too difficult to find. These decks are still quite plentyful.

Martin

Dear Leslie

I have been following your threads for about 3 years now, we have had some interesting discussions and I have learned from your optical restorations.

You have always been an active and helpful member, but lately (last three month or so) your bragging about all the equipment you have, and how fast you can, optical, improve the look of the same, has been bothering me and maybe other members, your aggressive way of replying to post was bound to end this way.

Example: A member expresses a wish to own a Beocenter 9300, and up comes your replay, "you want one, I have 5😜" , and not only 1 time, over and over about different items. Or: "Last Sunday I re clothed 5 sets of speakers" followed by a link to 20 pics without explanation.

On the old forum, and in the beginning of the this new forum you made some exceptional  threads, your replies was helpful and to the point, and it was possible to discuss and have a conversation with you.

This may be because you are trying to sell out of your hoarded equipment or it may have other reasons, but to attack a member, who has a life long experience with B&O, is an expert and dedicated collector of B&O vintage,  who just wants to make sure that other members, do not make the same failure as you do, does not belong here.

Kind regards, Søren

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