God morning Spiros

You are right to a degree, and I'm done with this.

@ Max, sorry for the thread steal

I will be editing this distasteful thread later today. I think a cooling off period is called for. I suggest we remember this is Christmas and a time of goodwill. 

I have heavily edited this thread - I thinks tempers became frayed and some remarks did not add to the discussion. I apologise if I have made the thread a little disjointed and Spiros' s comments seem a little out of context. I left these as I feel they are relevant to the site. 

Moderating this site is usually very easy as the members are almost all well behaved and friendly. However we do come from a huge number of different countries and sometimes offence can be taken where none is meant. Also certain nationalities do wear their hearts on their sleeves rather more than the buttoned up English. I think this is one such case and I must apologise for not being around so much to nip these situations in the bud. 

I recognise as all opinions as valuable as they all add to our collective knowledge. Apologies to Max for the way this thread went - it doesn't normally happen! 😳

Surprised how hot this topic is/was ;-) Anyway, thank you for advise and sharing your experience and now I know it's common. Merry Christmas to all!

Max