Step1 wrote:

The 5500 never had powerlink and to make matters worse the lineout was redirected and sourced from the output amplifier and attenuated as opposed to the 5000 that was sourced from the pre-out stage. Not sure why they made this move as it would have been better to drive the newly released penta via line level rather than speaker level. I suspect the real reason would be that the line level would have sounded better than speakerlink which they needed for data and links... I don't know can't see it being a technical reason tbh!

Sorry about the 5500 - I only have a 5000 and a 6500 system -so I assumed that the 5500 had powerlink too 😳

tournedos wrote:

chartz wrote:

but the speakers?

Gradient Helsinki 👍

Funky speakers, and not even horribly expensive for what they are capable of!

-and who said the BL5's are ugly..? Compared to these, the BL5 are beautiful 😁
(wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no more!) 😉
(-where's the whistling smiley?) 🤔🙂

Are those drivers not out of phase... Can't believe I am asking that before asking how they produce the low notes!!!

Steffen wrote:

Step1 wrote:

The 5500 never had powerlink and to make matters worse the lineout was redirected and sourced from the output amplifier and attenuated as opposed to the 5000 that was sourced from the pre-out stage. Not sure why they made this move as it would have been better to drive the newly released penta via line level rather than speaker level. I suspect the real reason would be that the line level would have sounded better than speakerlink which they needed for data and links... I don't know can't see it being a technical reason tbh!

 

 

Sorry about the 5500 - I only have a 5000 and a 6500 system -so I assumed that the 5500 had powerlink too 😳

It was only when I tried plugging a powerlink plug in that I realised lol!

tournedos wrote:

Gradient Helsinki 👍

Funky speakers, and not even horribly expensive for what they are capable of!

Well, we certainly have different views about price tags!

$7,000 is certainly an awful lot of money for me, about 3 months' income... also the price of a small new car!

soundproof wrote:

do have a Beosystem 6500, now in my bedroom, but the Beolab/Beomaster 5000 together with the Beogram 3000 have become an addiction. I've now made an arrangement with Frede to have a second Beolab 5000 refurbished, to be able to run them as monobloque amplifiers (using the center channel, Frede informed me, and one of the Beolab 5000s serving as preamplifier).

Stein,

Love the idea of the 5000 as monoblocs -  one of the reasons I like the BM 8000 so much.   Having recently seen Frede's restoration of a BL/BM 5000 and BG 3000 (Thorens) combination  'in the flesh' so to speak, I can understand fully the enthusiasm  you and others have for his work.    

What happened to the BG4000, by the way?  

Cleve

chartz wrote:

Well, we certainly have different views about price tags!

$7,000 is certainly an awful lot of money for me, about 3 months' income... also the price of a small new car!

Move to Finland and that will be solved - $7,000 will be far from getting you any kind of a new car 😁

These are high end speakers. In that context they aren't too expensive.

Cleviebaby wrote:

What happened to the BG4000, by the way?  

Cleve

I had two. A good friend is now in possession of one, and enjoying it immensely, and I've kept the other one.

I know a guy that will sell a BeoMaster 5000 FM Tuner, BeoLab 5000, Beovox 5000 and 2500 Beovox Cube Loudspeakers. The entire system is restored. The price is 12000 SEK = 1356 euros. I'll try to find money to buy it.