BM 4400 Mexico

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Sorry to say that a comparison of the specs on the amplifier reveals that thhey are the same!!

Not surprising, since they are the same amplifier, the sound quality will be te same.

You are implying that the 9500 will sound, in some way, superior. I'm saying that there is not a jot of difference between them and you are being led up the garden path by those polished panels!

Hi Graham,

 

I was merely quoting the printed specs at BeoCentral.

 

As I have never seen a BeoCenter 9500 I can hardly be seduced by the polished panels, but wouldn’t mind being.

 

If you say it is the same amp, who am I to question you?

 

Jeff

Location: Victoria, British Columbia

My B&O Icons:

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I am not a great believer in printed specs but  look at the printed specs on this site.

This thread seems like coated in Teflon, the topic just doesn't stick to it.

tournedos wrote:

This thread seems like coated in Teflon, the topic just doesn't stick to it.

You are right, we are way off topic, but it started out correctly 😁, then Jeff and I started using it as a chatting thread, and others joined, The reason is that I had to wait for spares coming from DK, they are here now, and this coming weekend I will get the thread back on course.

As thread starter I welcome you to our chat 🙂

 

Location: Mexico city

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Restored various 1960-70 items
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Søren Mexico wrote:
This thread seems like coated in Teflon, the topic just doesn't stick to it.

 

Søren is entirely correct, this thread, as well as others has deviated far from the initial posting vis-à-vis Søren’s Beomaster 4400.

 

As an occasional educator I can tell you without hesitation that lacking order and structure lessons degenerate into a meaningless mass of confusion. However adhering to a ridged and non-evolving dialog NOTHING will be learned.

 

Case in point Jacques talked about taking on a BeoCenter 9500 project, which led to Graham to question my views on the differences between the BeoCenters in this series, and from that I learned there are not a great deal of difference other than cosmetics and the two-way infra red remote.

 

I have put a good deal of time and effort (EIGHT months) into restoring this BeoCenter 9000 and as a direct result of this off the point dialog I gained a whole new perspective and respect for my 9000.

 

Once Søren gets back to work on his Beomaster 4400, this thread will return to its original intent….. not to worry.

 

I for one look forward to the 4400 exchange with GREAT anticipation, however in the mean time several members learned something and I call that a genuine value and benefit. 🤒

 

Jeff

 

Location: Victoria, British Columbia

My B&O Icons:

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i see its a old topic but my respect for your job well done!

On Beocentral, you can read that the receiver guts of the Beocenter 9000/9500 series are the same as the ones found in the Beomaster 4500! 

Everything is crystal-clear now! I know why you are so fond of it!

Beomaster 4400 (to stay on topic) 😎

Jacques,

 

I loved what you said, every word, with special emphasis on your witty ending….. but unfortunately, I fear it is not correct.

 

According to Tim and Nick Jarman, who wrote what some consider the definitive book on Bang & Olufsen, the BeoCenter 9000 has a 30W per channel amplifier based on the Beomaster 3300 while the Beomaster 4500 has a 40W amplifier.

 

The BeoCenter 9500 also has a 40W amplifier and considering the manufacture time frames: BeoCenter 9000 (1987-1988) Beomaster 3300 (1987-1989) and BeoCenter 9500 (1989-1993) Beomaster 4500 (18989-1992) and think we can fairly conclude that the 9000 is based on the 3300 while the 9500 is based on the 4500.

 

I know, I just ruined your delightful scenario and I am sorry for that. I truly am.

 

Now it is true that I am “over the moon” regarding the BeoCenter 9000, but that may have more to do with its gorgeous looks than its sound quality, which honestly is not in the same league with the Beomaster 4500.

 

I also checked the Owner’s manuals which confirmed the 30W amplifier in the 9000, but confusingly enough stated the Beomaster 4500 has a 55W amplifier. Personally I go with what the Jarman brothers have to say.

 

Now in keeping with your clever ending, BEOMASTER 4400, staying on subject! 😎

 

Jeff

Location: Victoria, British Columbia

My B&O Icons:

BeoCenter-9500.png BeoCenter-9500.png
Beovox.png Beovox.png
Beotime.png Beotime.png
Beosound.png Beosound.png
Beogram-400x.png Beogram-400x.png

Piaf wrote:

Jacques,

 

I loved what you said, every word, with special emphasis on your witty ending….. but unfortunately, I fear it is not correct.

 

According to Tim and Nick Jarman, who wrote what some consider the definitive book on Bang & Olufsen, the BeoCenter 9000 has a 30W per channel amplifier based on the Beomaster 3300 while the Beomaster 4500 has a 40W amplifier.

 

The BeoCenter 9500 also has a 40W amplifier and considering the manufacture time frames: BeoCenter 9000 (1987-1988) Beomaster 3300 (1987-1989) and BeoCenter 9500 (1989-1993) Beomaster 4500 (18989-1992) and think we can fairly conclude that the 9000 is based on the 3300 while the 9500 is based on the 4500.

 

I know, I just ruined your delightful scenario and I am sorry for that. I truly am.

 

Now it is true that I am “over the moon” regarding the BeoCenter 9000, but that may have more to do with its gorgeous looks than its sound quality, which honestly is not in the same league with the Beomaster 4500.

 

I also checked the Owner’s manuals which confirmed the 30W amplifier in the 9000, but confusingly enough stated the Beomaster 4500 has a 55W amplifier. Personally I go with what the Jarman brothers have to say.

 

Now in keeping with your clever ending, BEOMASTER 4400, staying on subject! 😎

 

Jeff

Yes, to stay in subject, BM4400 has discrete power amp, while BM 3300, BM4500, BC9500 ALL have same STK4151-V hydrib driven with 33v slipt supply. What is intresting is, that hydrib manufacturer (Sanyo) rates this hydrib to 30W at split 28v supply.

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