Søren Mexico wrote:

Considering that a 4400, as is, from Ebay would cost about USD 100.00 inclusive shipping, add spare parts for another USD 100.00, the job.

Reconditioned the right way, I would be willing to pay, USD 250-300.00

If I didn't already have a refurbished BM4000 that I adore, I'd probably go $300 for a BM4400.  I'd go $500 for a BM4401, aka The Precious.

It depends on where on the planet you live! In some countries like England Germany Denmark where these were obviously sold in sufficient numbers to find them locally. In my case in Ireland so little b and o that show's up second hand that I just have to buy from else where.

My beovirus has been so far  fed by Lee, iconic, Barrie , Leslie and Martin and all great people to deal with (when you need a fix)

Magnus wrote:

Cleviebaby wrote:

As for mine - it is priceless.  Peter, who I had not met and did not know other than as someone who offered advice on this site, gave it to me.  That meant so much and his gesture had a real influence on my view of the world.   

Cleve

Reading about Peter's kindness restores my faith in humankind. He sounds like a really nice guy! He's truly an inspiation - we should all be a little more like him.

Amen to that, Peter is a truly generous soul.

Unlike the ex-Beoworld member I gave a BM5500/CD5500 & CX 100's to as he had just been through a messy divorce & ahd to sell his B&O system.

2 weeks later he had them listed on ebay 🙁

Chris.

If you can get a restored one from a Beoworld member, then it would be worth paying more to obtain - with all the various aging components replaced, then maybe go above £200.

If its off 'some dude on EBAY' then it has to be worth less.

 

If you have the means to get a faulty one repaired, well try for less than £100, but remember the repair and restoration will still have to be added on.

The sound of the 4400 compared to anything in the remote control Beomaster 1900-4500 range is going to be significantly better, there are only a few that can compete, the Beomaster 8000, maybe a well restored Beomaster 5000 - it is truly that good.

Medogsfat wrote:

2 weeks later he had them listed on ebay 🙁

Chris.

An evolving tendency I'm afraid.

In my opinion, there are very few true generous people (like Peter and Medogsfat) who are genuine and donates so much. My little dream would be to buy buy and restore some B&O gear to sell it on here for symbolical prices for the poor (students in mind) to have a chance to try B&O.

I have read a whole rage-themed thread on a tape enthusiast forum about the "giving away and selling it on ebay just after reception of the parcel" and it annoys me that people can be so selfish and directly stupid to do it. Chris here could have sold his Beomaster/CD 5500 system for well over £150 on ebay, but have chosen to help a fellow member of the Beoworld family by donating it to him. I would not have the conscience to make such a stunt as to sell it upon receiving the system; it is morally wrong by any standards and members doing it should be banned as they disrespect and offend the donating member and fellow members.

I asked the owner of a B&O restoration shop if he had a 4400 for sale as I am familiar with his work, which is excellent, and he said yes, but didn’t know how much to ask for it.

As such I opened this forum asking what would be a “fair” price to pay for a 4400.

I then took all the responses and sent them to the owner who responded, “Ha ha ha ha ha.”

My assumption is he will want a very high price so I will just be patient as sooner of later Peter, Martin, or Frede will come up with one and let me know about it.

Jeff

 

I find what happened to Chris appalling.

Most people interested in B&O products tend to be incredibly nice and often most generous. I for one was the recipient of a host of badly needed parts for my Beogram 4000 sent entirely gratis…. a kindness I will NEVER forget!

Jeff

Piaf wrote:

I asked the owner of a B&O restoration shop if he had a 4400 for sale as I am familiar with his work, which is excellent, and he said yes, but didn’t know how much to ask for it.

As such I opened this forum asking what would be a “fair” price to pay for a 4400.

I then took all the responses and sent them to the owner who responded, “Ha ha ha ha ha.”

My assumption is he will want a very high price so I will just be patient as sooner of later Peter, Martin, or Frede will come up with one and let me know about it.

Jeff

 

The owner of the B&O restoration shop laughed at the responses because they mostly came from members who had bought from private individuals who basically just wanted rid of an old amplifier, with no come back whatsoever.

The B&O restoration shop probably got his stock from the same type of seller but has to sell at a price which will recover this cost, plus a proportion of the business's overheads, cover the costs of any possible warranty work which may be required, plus make a profit!

The overheads of a small business are considerable, probably much more than the stock purchase costs. The likely warranty costs of a 40 year old piece of electromechanical equipment are also not inconsiderable.

The price that your B&O restoration shop is looking for will be several times the prices quoted by some members of BeoWorld, who's "raison d'etre"  seems to be, how little they have just paid for a certain piece of vintage B&O..

 

joeyboygolf wrote:

The price that your B&O restoration shop is looking for will be several times the prices quoted by some members of BeoWorld, who's "raison d'etre"  seems to be, how little they have just paid for a certain piece of vintage B&O..

I agree.

Martin

I agree as well - if you are buying from a commercial organisation, who has spent time and money repairing an item, don't expect to pay nothing. This is one of the reasons most of the B&O resellers do not deal in the older equipment which will invaraibly need repair and which will have a minimal value. When we returned from Bellac, most of the equipment we brought back went straight into a skip as it was not economical to even think about fixing it. The pieces we kept were either rare, mint or had sentimental value. Very few pieces were of sufficient quality to be sold on so were simply disposed off. You should have seen Andy's face!! 😁

Of course , the other sign of this coin is that a piece bought from a dealer should have a guarantee, even if this is for a short period only , and will work as intended.