Beogram 42VF - some questions

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Just got myself a Beogram 42VF. Not working, dirty, rusted - looks like it's going to be a full restoration.

First off, does someone have the schematics or a service manual? Somebody messed up the connections to the preamp and bypassed it.

Is there a lid? Never saw a picture of 42 with one, so I guess not?

Was this designed as part of a system - if so, which amp should accompany it? The Dirigent? I really like the colour scheme of this and as I always wanted a valve amp anyways... 😁

Wow, a post about vintage stuff.
Nice !  🤒

That's a wonderful deck.
Most of these have an envelope with the schematics etc. glued to the inside of the bottom plate.
I suppose you already checked that so here is a bit of info:

The little board shown on the left is a blind-plate to fit if the RIAA is unplugged. It would have been the
correct way of bypassing the RIAA.
If the above info is not enough ask me again and I'll dig around a bit more. I'm sure I have more.

The dustcover was optional (and rare).

Yes, a Dirigent would be a perfect match and then a pair of Type M (as minimum), S or even K speakers.
Add an open reel deck and you will have a very fine setup.

For those who don't know what a 42VF looks like, here's one (Type S274):

Martin

Thanks! Now I know which cable needs to go where. The envelope is still there, but the schematics are gone.

I'm glad they bypassed it this way and didn't just junk the preamp. Unfortunately the needle didn't survive shipping, I'll have to get a spare one before I can test if the preamp actually works.

I will repaint the baseplate - looks really bad right now. Rusty spots and scratches everwhere. Also, the veneer has been painted a long time ago. Will take some time until it looks as nice as the one on your picture. But - the motor runs great! Quiet and with the right speed.

Doesn't the Dirigent already have a preamp integrated? I actually already have a open reel deck that fits the Beogram rather nice size & veneerwise (Tandberg series 15). Now where to get a Dirigent…😁

Is the tonearm the same as in the 1000 (except for the cueing)? Mine is rather messed up and I guess it'll be easier to find a spare...

The gyro bearing is rather wonky and the grub screw that holds the inner bearing in place is rusted shut. And I might just have ruined the screw head and any chance to get it out... 🙁 

Now, what about some pics, we love that😁, the Dirigent you should be able to find on Danish sites, link, another. Check there frequently, I have seen a pair or 2 within the last year.

For the Grub screw, soke over night in WD 40 or other rust loosener (Caramba, 3 in one), before trying to loosening the screw, try to knock it lightly more times with a screwdriver and a small hammer.

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Now, what about some pics, we love that😁

Alright...try and find all the parts. I'm not really into tidy workspaces. (Other things you see in the pic: a Beolab 1700 and several parts of my SAAB - yes, that thing on the floor is a power steering unit 😕)

Baseplate de-rusted and ready for a new coat of paint.

Body before and after (sanding and wood oil). By the way, this is solid wood and not just veneer!

 

I had the screw soaked in rust loosener overnight. Unfortunately that didn't help at all. The screw head completely disintegrated…

Well…the last time I saw a Dirigent for sale on dba it was in flawless working condition. I'd actually prefer a non-working one 😎(for a cheaper price, of course).

Edit: Just got a mail from the seller. He has a spare SP6-7 and will send it to me. Another problem solved.

Might

Good work. I have one of these too. Lovely looking decks. Mine is really in mint condition except for where the original owner stuck one of those awful "dustbug" dust removal things. This caused the rusting on the top plate. I have the user manual with mine (I will scan it for the site) and it doesnt mention anything about a lid for the deck.

Here is mine.

 

Just opened mine up and heres a scan of the schematics. The preamp bit isnt on this scan but if you need it let me know.

Martin, you say type no. S274, mine says S402. Any ideas?

 

Having just seen the picture, I'm not sure if you can read any of it anyway. If you want a better copy, let me know and I will try and sort it out.

Ablaumeise, Good work, i'm looking forward to see more of your restoration work.

Thanks a lot Beaker your SP 8-9 arrived safely. The stylus is in perfect original condition. ;)

Cheers!

Glad you like it. Are you going to use it or just look at it?

So…I'm gonna need another tonearm. Better don't ask. 😮

What's the exact difference between the ST/M and the ST/L? Just the length?

Beaker, thanks for your scan. I don't know yet if I'll need a scan of the preamp schematics. Depends on wether or not it works...

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