Beogram 4004 & Beomaster 4400 Maintenance and speaker ideas.

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Just a thought.... I constantly see vintage B&O equipment for sale on the Internet. When my system was stolen in the 80's after 5 years of use, you could have taken the BG4004 and the BM4400 and put them on display in any high-end audio store and sold them as "new".  I didn't do anything special, I just used common sense and took care of them. The B&O equipment I see for sale on eBay and other sites makes me want to cry. Almost  new systems are dented, scuffed and look like they've been abused. My only thoughts are they must have been owned by some spoiled brats who didn't understand what they had. They just knew it was supposed to be the best. There is no reason why the aluminum panels should have dents or the wooden veneers should have coffee cup stains on them. Why should a door or lid be "missing"?

It baffles me. Just like some people shouldn't have children they will abuse, some people shouldn't be allowed to have electronic artwork they will abuse. I guess this seems like just some angry rant, but I cringe when I see abused children, spouses, pets and now B&O equipment.

I've always had similar thoughts. Why is it so hard for people to treat their equipment and other property with respect? 

My equipment lives an easy life and as a result all of it looks like I just unboxed it. It isn't hard to do at all.

This pretty much goes for all equipment I see. I'm even more picky about cars... A rant for sure! 

Location: San Francisco

I'm an automotive audio and acoustic engineer. I design loudspeakers and full sound systems for new automobiles. I also dabble with studio, consumer and pro audio projects from time to time.

Gene wrote:

There is no reason why the aluminum panels should have dents or the wooden veneers should have coffee cup stains on them. Why should a door or lid be "missing"?

Oh, I don't know.  Sometimes life just happens.  I remember dropping my entire CD collection on my RX 2 about 20 years ago.  (It wasn't even scratched!)

Then again, I have yelled at people for using speakers as end tables, or turntable dust covers as CD case stands.

What really gets me, though, are half-hearted and fully-stupid repair attempts.  Witness my second pair of M70s as I received them.  I can't imagine ever thinking, "Hey, my M70 frets won't stay on.  Maybe I should put a drywall screw through them all the way into the speaker baffle.  Yeah, that'll work, and it's a good idea."

 

 

Gene wrote:

I certainly hope the following won't get me thrown out of the B&O club, but during the late 70's and early 80's after I purchased my BM4400 and BG4004, I lusted after a pair of Magneplanar Magnaplan IIIa speakers.

I've always wanted a pair of Maggies.

The single greatest pair of loudspeakers I ever listened to was a pair of Dahlquist DQ-10s back in the summer of '87.  Instead of buying the speakers, I bought the Nikko Beta 20 preamplifier and Phase Linear 400 power amplifier the guy was also selling.  I wish college-age Rich had the disposable income middle-age Rich has.  Of course, middle-age Rich also has a wife and kids and so spends money a little less easily than college-age Rich.

Still waiting on pictures....

Here are the long awaited pics with the Maggies. The cords still need to be organized, but as you can see, the record's spinnin' and I'm listenin'.

Also, just purchased a MINT, I MEAN MINT 3300 system. Beomaster 3300, Beogram CD3300, Beocord 3300, Terminal 3300 and wall bracket all for $199.00 USD!!! I'll put this in the wife's hobby room as soon as I score some speakers.

Rock and roll, man, very nice!  Looks like you got a space reserved there for a CD X and a component to be named later!

That looks like an awesome setup!

Enjoy sir, enjoy!!

Location: San Francisco

I'm an automotive audio and acoustic engineer. I design loudspeakers and full sound systems for new automobiles. I also dabble with studio, consumer and pro audio projects from time to time.

Rich wrote:
I've always wanted a pair of Maggies.

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These are listed for $200 bucks on Craigslist here locally. Should college age Evan spend his turntable money?

I also have my eye on some Altec / Lansing / EV Voice of the Theater  boxes with horns 😐 Both would be pretty hard to hide from the parents!! 😂😂

Location: San Francisco

I'm an automotive audio and acoustic engineer. I design loudspeakers and full sound systems for new automobiles. I also dabble with studio, consumer and pro audio projects from time to time.

Save your turntable money and use your retirement fund or rent money for the Maggies. Make sure you listen to them first, because a trip to Magnepan will cost about a thousand to get them reworked. Even then, it is still a deal. I love mine.

Evan wrote:

Rich wrote:
I've always wanted a pair of Maggies.


These are listed for $200 bucks on Craigslist here locally. Should college age Evan spend his turntable money?

I also have my eye on some Altec / Lansing / EV Voice of the Theater  boxes with horns 😐 Both would be pretty hard to hide from the parents!! 😂😂

As long as you can say in the end, "It was gorgeousness and gorgeousity O my brothers!", does it really matter where your hi-fi budget goes?  🤔

In all seriousness, do you see yourself collecting vinyl records EVER in the future?  Do you have a friendly local used record store (FLURS)?  If you can't answer both questions with "Yes" with 95% confidence, then don't buy a turntable.  With apologies to Eugene:  even if it completes the set.

If it were me, I'd get the Maggies, if I had the room to set them up in.  Unbelievable 3D soundstage with acoustic music, in the right room.  Never heard them with electric rock and roll (which is what I primarily listen to).

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