Beogram 2000 won't stop!

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Thought a top down photo of relay 'may' be useful :

 

Just checked service manual and I can see the spring you must be referring to. It's labelled 87 on diagram with part number 2819073. I have never seen a spring that looks like this. How odd to have it disappear. I wonder if it fell off during the many disassembly and reassembly my turntable has gone through over the past few weeks? I thought I would have heard it rattling or would have found it on the work bench. I will have a good look inside the turntable and see if it is there but I'm not hopeful. Will report back.

Thank you Martin.

Well I've searched everywhere the turntable has been. Crawled around on my hands & knees with a torch. Placed the turntable on each of its 4 sides without the wooden plinth and base cover in place, given it a shake but sadly nothing rattling or moving around. It's quite a large spring too (comparatively speaking) so you'd think i'd hear it or see it. Checked the wooden plinth and base cover. Very odd.

It definitely wasn't there when I removed the relay.

I will keep looking as without this spring all my efforts to date will have been a waste. I'm not sure what this spring does but it is likely to be the 'missing link' that has been causing the turntables sporadic behaviour. I'm so glad Martin you were able to identify this spring was missing.

If I find it I'll shout. else are these springs available as an individual part?

Regards, Carl

Hi All,

You will see from the last few threads that I have lost a spring that goes on the end of the start relay. It is thanks to Martin that I have been made aware of this spring. I have no idea when and where it was lost. I have no recall of seeing it let alone removing it.

I have continued my search, including even the remotest of places, but with no luck. This spring obviously serves a purpose but as yet I'm not sure what that purpose is. And because I haven't seen it in situ then I don't know how it is assembled. Without this spring I will be unable to eliminate its absence as the main cause for the erratic turntable behaviour I have been experiencing.

I have included a drawing of the spring with part number. Does anyone have one? Martin do you have one? Also it would most helpful to find a photo of this spring in place so that I may install it correctly?

Many thanks for your help, Carl

 

The link I provided above has a photo of the spring mounted, perhaps that wasn't enough?

Thank you Martin,

I don't understand why but I missed the initial link you provided, my apologies. 

Yes that link is very useful.

I'm going to have another look for the spring within the internals of the turntable, although I'm not hopeful. It could be lodged somewhere out of sight? I'll say if found.

Thanks for adding to list of things to look for.

Rgds, Carl

No sign of this relay spring! Its loss is a complete mystery. I'd feel happier if at least I'd seen it in place prior to starting my renovation work. But I imagine it is not a component one would easily be aware of. Interestingly, I checked all the photos I have taken prior and during my many disassemblies. The few photos that show the relay do not show any spring. 

However, it is what it is and despite many hours of searching (i've even gone through the contents of the hoover) it is now officially lost!!

It may turn up one day and I'll think to myself what on earth is this for, and probably put it straight in the bin.

Hopefully a replacement can soon be found.

Rgds, Carl

Hi! Not sure if you solved the problem already but I had similar issues. I got my deck from a friend who was about to throw it away. My deck started instantly as I p plugged it in and wouldn't stop until I unplugged it from the mains. I found out that this was due to a fried capacitor. It's right there next to the motor.

Here's an image showing the fried capacitor: 

Hi Tekni, Thanks for your comments. I'm no technician but I did solve the problem of the Beogram 2000 not stopping when pressing the LIFT button (updates were given in a new post). I'm not able pinpoint the exact cause but as I recall I did 3 things. 1) Ensure the micro switch below the LIFT button assembly was set correctly (in accordance with the service manual). 2) Re-seat all the wires that go into the white multi-connector adjacent to the motor (including the capacitor). 3) Reset the start relay contacts housed in the clear plastic relay box adjacent to the central cam (in accordance with the service manual). I strongly suspect the main culprits were the LIFT button micro switch (as I previously had to remove mine), and the start relay contacts. I think the multi connector connections were an unlikely cause in my case.

As far as my pickup arm acting erratically, that was fixed by fine adjustments off the start relay contacts to ensure they were either open or closed when the relay armatures were in a specific position against the Cam (as shown in the service manual), AND of course inserting a new armature spring. I had to make a new spring from a photo that was kindly supplied, which wasn't too difficult (took 3 attempts). I've now glued the spring in place! I have the photo I used and some spare sprung wire if you need any.

My Beogram 2000 did get a motor re-build (bearings re-lubricated via vacuum infusion) along with the lubrication of other moving parts. It is now working as it should. A lot of effort and fair amount of cost but worth it!

Regards, Carl

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