a bentley ( these days ) is basically a vw phaeton with a different body stuck on it and a badge that actually sells it , somehow

your point ? 

Razlaw:

My wife's new Cadillac CTS is much more technologically advanced than a new Bentley, real time traffic updates, etc, but I still would choose the Bentley if I had the choice, even with its technology that might be a year or two, or maybe even more, out of date, because of the whole package Bentley, as B and O puts together.

Ah, but would you buy that Bentley should it have a Toyota engine and a Chevrolet transmission in it?

Isn't it just as absurd to refuse to acknowledge serious product and/or marketing flaws as it is constantly to complain?  I, for one, am forthright about what I perceive as concerns but never hesitant to heap praise on what is admittedly great.  All the dissenters are yelling.  All the supporters are yelling.  Where have the unbiased gone? 

The Bentley, as somebody else here correctly noted, at least the GT and its siblings, is basically a VW Phaeton, but a VW, nevertheless and thus full of VW parts. So, to answer your question, if Bentley decided that a Toyota or Chevy was the best part to use, yes I would still buy one. Actually, your point is a very good one. Bentley takes lesser parrts from a VW and upgrades them, engine gets turbo chargers, dash controls get metal instead of plastic and it becomes one of the most desirable cars in the world. B and O does the same thing with the BV 7, starts with a Samsung and then upgrades it into something completely different with their extras. Maybe I will check out a Bentley forum and see if its member complain about the product being an overpriced rebadged VW as so many people like to do here about B and O.

anampersand:

Razlaw:

Razlaw:

My wife's new Cadillac CTS is much more technologically advanced than a new Bentley, real time traffic updates, etc, but I still would choose the Bentley if I had the choice, even with its technology that might be a year or two, or maybe even more, out of date, because of the whole package Bentley, as B and O puts together.

Ah, but would you buy that Bentley should it have a Toyota engine and a Chevrolet transmission in it?

Isn't it just as absurd to refuse to acknowledge serious product and/or marketing flaws as it is constantly to complain?  I, for one, am forthright about what I perceive as concerns but never hesitant to heap praise on what is admittedly great.  All the dissenters are yelling.  All the supporters are yelling.  Where have the unbiased gone? 

The Bentley, as somebody else here correctly noted, at least the GT and its siblings, is basically a VW Phaeton, but a VW, nevertheless and thus full of VW parts. So, to answer your question, if Bentley decided that a Toyota or Chevy was the best part to use, yes I would still buy one. Actually, your point is a very good one. Bentley takes lesser parrts from a VW and upgrades them, engine gets turbo chargers, dash controls get metal instead of plastic and it becomes one of the most desirable cars in the world. B and O does the same thing with the BV 7, starts with a Samsung and then upgrades it into something completely different with their extras. Maybe I will check out a Bentley forum and see if its member complain about the product being an overpriced rebadged VW as so many people like to do here about B and O.

I'd assume there'd be no complaints at that particular forum, as I'd assume most Bentley buyers slap down a credit card to enhance their social status without actually checking into many of the fine details.

Which is quite unlike B&O buyers.  Oh, wait.... 

Quite! 

Goodness - what an unpleasant thread. I know 355F has had much B&O and I am sure will continue to buy it - sometimes despite his better judgement! B&O had advantages and disadvantages - unfortunately they are competing in the fast moving area of flat screens where the avarage life of other make models is measured in weeks as far as I can see. This has never been the B&O way and they attempt to keep up to date by the constant development of the existing models. This is not wholly successful unfortunately.

I am sure most users of the BV7 et al are perfectly happy as they will not spend their time comparing their set with the latest Pioneer etc. The BV7 has had a good picture for some time now for an LCD and just because there is now something better doesn't make the BV7 junk. However if I was buying a new set now, the decision would be trickier. 

Having seen Lee's set, a BV9 seems quite attractive!! 

Lots of us are still staring in disbelieve at a Bv5. Yes. And then we switch it on. I would think that many of us are just like me, looking at their BVs more often off then on.

I have 2 things that I want since childhood.

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One is the watch above. It was advertised a lot when i studied, it has multiple time zones which reflects my lifestyle.

The other thing was a BV5. And no BV9 did not cause that urge.  If I would have space I would still go after a BV5.

 I think rather then chasing picture quality and latest spec they need to design better flat screens. Beoliving is one way to impress the design freak. 

So now do a similar thing with the BVs. BC6 actually is quite there, If it would have a current for tuner and conneections it should do well.

 I dont think the solution to the trouble is in updated spec or more features like Lewe has. I like simplicity,

In fact, I like the simplicity of having 1 cd drive in the BC2 more then the  6 in the BS9000. I have both next to each other and use them at the same time.