Will HomePod 'kill' BeoPlay?

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elephant wrote:
I have not done any B&O speaker shootout yet - I’ll save that for the weekend.

Will be interesting to hear how the audio quality compares, as I've only read positive feedback on the audio performance, but still have no idea how this compares to, say, a BeoSound, BeoSound 2 etc.

For a shade over £300, if the quality is decent, sadly I'd consider one. My A6 is very flaky even with a fixed IP. Sound quality is very mid-range and I'm seriously considering moving it on. A9 is amazing in comparison though.

No direct comparison with B&O but just on standalone basis, HomePod is phenomenal. 

Received the HomePod today and have been listening for the past 2 hours. A real big sound in small package and lots of fun with Siri (though on the Apple Music quality) but I am not using this as a critical listening set up. Just a fun set up.

Sound remains pretty good through out the room and Siri has amazingly fine listening. 

Good separation of vocals and instruments. Everything comes out clean and not mushed at all.

If one can live in Apple universe (or use airplay without Siri), it seems a no brainer versus B&O small speakers.

I received my two Homepods today and hooked one up for now.

- I am not an Apple Music subscriber

- I do have my iTunes library in iTunes Match

- I mainly listen to my music with iTunes Remote on my iPad using Airplay to the speaker(s) I want it.

- I have no reason to use Siri to select my music, I gather it would be more frustrating with Japanese words and Japanese names which is now a good portion of my library.  But it is fun to ask Siri "What's playing" and hear how Siri handles the names and titles.

My first listening session left me very impressed. Everything sounded good, but for me possibly a little bass heavy.  Without a direct comparison to anything I am very happy with it.  A lot of people think that the price of a Homepod is outrageous, but being a B&O customer I think it is a bargain.

I did move my BeoSound 2 to be next to it to see how it compares to a $2000 system.  I was mostly interested in initial impressions.

I used DB Meter Pro on my iPad to get the volume levels as close as I could.  I played a song on the HomePod and then the same song on the BeoSound 2.  The bass on the BeoSound 2 sounded very subdued in comparison, which made me go to the settings.  Bass & Treble - Flat, Position - Wall where it should be.  Loudness - off.  I turned it on to see if it would brighten up.  I wish I could adjust the bass on the HomePod a little, I would turn it down a bit.  The BeoSound 2 to my ears has better bass control, but I did find the mids and highs a little better on the HomePod, in general.  Sometimes in comparison (on a couple of songs) the mids on the BeoSound 2 appeared somewhat muffled in comparison.

The important test:  Kanna Hashimoto's Arigato

I've read that the HomePod is *not* a mono speaker so I was hopeful to hear the word of the out-of-phase word "bakari".  On the HomePod the sound level of this word is much lower, although it is clearly there. On the BeoSound 2 the word is either the same sound level or does even appear a bit louder.  I think the BeoSound 2 handles cases like this better.  I expect it will be fine when I can stereo-pair the HomePod.

Focusing on the vocals test: Alan's Sign

The HomePod is supposed to analyze the song and present the vocals toward you.  This song's lyrics are in Tibetan, but you would never be able to know this as the vocals are buried deeply in the instruments and you can barely hear them.  Listening to the song on the HomePod is like hearing a slightly different version of the song.  There seemed to be a pathway that opened up to the vocals, indeed a very pleasant new listening experience. The bass is handled better on the BeoSound 2, but everything else was wonderful on the HomePod.

This processing is what might be giving an edge to the HomePod in a lot of cases.  I still very much like my BeoSound 2, and I won't be doing back-to-back comparisons in my everyday use.  I have to admit that if I was deciding between a HomePod or the BeoSound 2 in a store, it would be hard to justify spending quite a bit more for the BeoSound 2, even after buying 2 HomePods.  The BeoSound 2 does look fantastic!  I do very much appreciate TuneIn being builtin to the BeoSound 2.  I do listen to that quite a bit.  If the HomePod was a little more open it would be a treal hreat to the existing market.  Apple doesn't claim that the HomePod presents the music faithfully, but it does do it in a very pleasant way, at least to me.

After Mark-N’s critical listening I am not sure my elephant 🐘 ears 👂👂 are up to that standard.

Whilst I haven doing some casual listening I have not tried the comparisons with my BeoLabs (sorry no BeoSound 1 nor 2).

This was going to be rant on techno journalism but first I must say that I just listened to these three songs:

Mrs Hemingway

Royals

The Firebird

And I was amazed at how the HomePod handle the transition between two quiet tracks and the Lorde bass. Which thumped — but without distortion.

The Firebird on the other hand sounds weak / thin ... interesting.

You will not from the image the tracks are from the BeoLab 20 test playlist Geoff Martin put together.

My rant is that despite the walled garden allegations I haves just played to the HomePod from Apple Music Airplay - switched to Spotify - switched to Deezer - seamlessly ! So come on journos, give me a break - do your homework!

Some dB measurements playing Adele’s Skyfall directly from Apple Cloud and monitoring via iPhone at about 10 inches ... and SWMBO just yelled “too loud” 😇

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did you think "This is the End.  Hold your breath and count to ten?"

:-)

And this ... this is clever marketing ... by Sonos

Sonos cleverly mocks Apple on HomePod launch day - CNEThttps://apple.news/AU94-ZrmCQgmK2DVU7DPb-A

😄😅😂🤣

Aussie Michael wrote:

😇

did you think "This is the End. Hold your breath and count to ten?"

:-)

HaHaHa

arrrgh

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I said it was HER Valentines Gift 💝

Methinks she disagrees

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Violently
elephant wrote:

HaHaHa

arrrgh

⚔️

I said it was HER Valentines Gift 💝

Methinks she disagrees

🧟‍♀️

Violently BeoNut since '75

It’s the Homer Simpson bowling ball :-)
Mark-N wrote:

I expect it will be fine when I can stereo-pair the HomePod.

I hear different reports on this.

iMore’s Rene Ritchie just discussed this on Macbreak Weekly.

To my surprise he said that he thinks Apple should not use the term Stereo, because it’s not, he said. Not in the ‘old’ way of thinking - two speakers right left Stereo hi-fi setup. He phrased it, IIRC, like ‘more sound’ DSP’ed .. as you add more HomePods.

We’ll see. I don’t like this trend.
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