tournedos wrote:

China is a big country that can build anything to the given specification.

hmmm...let see.......

you have a choice between a Sony TV Made in China at a given specs and one made in Japan at a given specs........I.m sure you are going to say it does not matters because it is the same...!!!!

seriously, I think that chinese people are great...but the problem is that < given specs<..... I am tired of hearing that the ONLY WAY is to made products in China because we are going to stay competitive.  That is the only solution for a CEO!..there are a lot of  options.......he does not have to think, it will be to much for him!!!

I wonder in few years when the chinese dream will fade where CEO are going to produce their products?.......I think the african continent is the next one.....and then in 100 years from now, who knows,  maybe  human being will be able to train penguins to assemble Beolab whatever...!!!!! and then everithng is starting again. One product made by a russian penguin will be cheaper than a canadian penguin  bla bla bla.....so the CEO has found the solution!!!

Human being has a great mind and instead of taking that low road and e is time to come back to the roots and be able to explore new ways of producing at a competitive price.

Lights blue touch paper………

I wonder what the %margin per unit is on an iPod/iPhone/iPad that is made in China is? After all it’s a premium American Company utilising cheap far-Eastern labour. I would however like to bet it is significantly more than the %margin on the BeoSound 8 made in the same place.

I am personally of the opinion that iPods and anything Apple is utter sh**e, but if they lowered the price by over 50% or even more for what is (looking at Apples profits) a huge huge huge Corporate money grab for some skin and bone electronics and a tacky plastic shell sold in the hundreds of millions, then I may well be tempted to go along with everyone else and buy one. Until that happens, I think they are much overpriced.

I can’t understand why people on this forum adore the iPod, want to dock it with a piece of B&O and then complain about the price/quality/and where it’s made. Seems very hypocritical to me.

Still each to their own. Oh, and the last time I saw a decent Linn product, it was multiples of a B&O one. I wonder what their %margin per unit is??

…..retires to safe distance to watch fireworks.

Mr10Percent wrote:

I am personally of the opinion that iPods and anything Apple is utter sh**e,

agree with you on this one! Sorry apple guys!!!

Personally i do not have problem with Chinese made products if it was made to specification,what i have problem with b&o greed!!!

In terms of production, China has many qualities, that's quite obvious.

But, can anyone name ONE famous worldwide Chinese brand? (This may change though in the near future!)

Many people seem to be dissing the BS8 solely based on the "Made in China" bit of the equation. How many have actually seen a BS8 in person, and felt it and touched it? I had the "pleasure" to do so yesterday (and today again, actually, at a different store) and it is distinctly underwhelming. Perhaps not the sound, but everything else. Even the cloth frets seems poorly stitched together (unlike the taut, dense material on the BL9). And unlike almost all other B&O products, it doesn't look good on the wall (sticks out unnaturally and too much). Doesn't matter where the BS8 is made, the choice of materials and the overall design is just way below expectation.

Leo

leogenghis wrote:

Many people seem to be dissing the BS8 solely based on the "Made in China" bit of the equation. How many have actually seen a BS8 in person, and felt it and touched it? I had the "pleasure" to do so yesterday (and today again, actually, at a different store) and it is distinctly underwhelming. Perhaps not the sound, but everything else. Even the cloth frets seems poorly stitched together (unlike the taut, dense material on the BL9). And unlike almost all other B&O products, it doesn't look good on the wall (sticks out unnaturally and too much). Doesn't matter where the BS8 is made, the choice of materials and the overall design is just way below expectation.

Leo

saw it few days ago and I already expressed my disappointment concerning the quality of the materials and the overall design!!

Coming back to Apple supporter: I remember one of the member which is an Apple fan  told   us that Beosound 8 is the best designed product and also that the quality of the materials is one of the best B&O has ever made...come on ....are you sure that this is the right forum for you?........for sure you have all Ipod and Macs at home and only one B&O product....

....and wait..the best part.....I am sure that in few months from now some people will sell it because : no real separation between L-R, no updates, cheap etc...

Beoboiinoz wrote:

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People such as Geoff Martin, with a BMus in Organ performance, a further tonnmeister degree, and a PHd in acoustics.  

<snip>

Best Regards

 

John... 😐

Is the tonnmeister the reason for the heavy weight of BeoLab 5?🤔

SCNR

iPoditiv, not a tonmeister

Mr10Percent wrote:

…..retires to safe distance to watch fireworks.

Making popcorn.... 

iPoditiv wrote:

Beoboiinoz wrote:

<snip>

People such as Geoff Martin, with a BMus in Organ performance, a further tonnmeister degree, and a PHd in acoustics.  

<snip>

Best Regards

 

John... 😐

Is the tonnmeister the reason for the heavy weight of BeoLab 5?🤔

SCNR

iPoditiv, not a tonmeister

 

But no ones letting on so that we know for sure....lol.... except that almost certainly the drivers in it won't be made in house by B&O.

Best

John....