Where did the A/V function go?

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From time to time - when discussing the functions of the NL - the longing for 'the good old A/V function' of the ML network come into the game.

For the record (if you don't already know) - the A/V can (e.g.) be used for turning a ML-BV on in audiomode, leaving the screen blank.

This function is not avaiable in a NL setup.

The 'A/V-function-pros' tend to regard this as a software bug in NL or even as something, that the people doing software programming at B&O, don't even know from personal experience - and/or have forgotten.

It would be nice to have some background information about these changes in NL compared to ML from someone in the knowing.

Note: I am not aiming at starting a discussing on personal preferences or habits built through using ML for years.There are plenty of threads with discussions (some times pretty hefty discussions) about this on the forum. This is a question about the factual background and would require, that someone knows a thing or two about this. 

As far as I am concerned, it has to do with the ML network as a Master/Slave(Link) setup and the NL as a network of equal sources, that (at least theoretically) can be accessed from everywhere on the network.

 

So - who is able to explain this?

Or - in other words - who could explain, why there is no A/V function in a NL setup!

 

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Location: Flensborg————Danmark

Hi MM,

From a technical perspective, I see no reason why the AV function could not be implemented in NL Beovisions. Indeed I would argue that in many cases it would be sensible for p.mute to be the default behaviour (ie for the screen not to be turned on)

Masterlink provided the control for both audio and video distribution (albeit with an additional cable being required to carry the picture itself) whereas Netlink is really only concerned with audio distribution.

Netlink products are effectively able to act as an audio server (for their own sources), or an audio client (for sources supplied by other NL products), or potentially both simultaneously, and if we think of a NL Beovision as an audio system with a very large display, it doesn't really make much sense for the screen to activate unless there is a need to use the display for navigating whichever source is being used.

It may be that it was a concious decision for it to be implemented as it is, or it may just have been something that wasn't though about, but I cannot see any purely technical reason that would justify the decision either way.

Sorry, I know this doesn't bring us any closer to an answer to the question!

Martin.

Location: Exeter, UK

Hi MM

To my opinion NL is totally about AV; it is called: JOIN.

If I listen to f.e. the Moment I can start the BV11 with JOIN; a short info screen is shown (as you know) then the screen is blacked out and I listen to the Audio source of the Moment

If I watch a Video source I can start the sound of the Video source on a Essence mkII by choosing the JOIN function.

 

Maybe I missed something, but isn't this in principle the same?

To Carolpa

The AV function is not exactly like you describe it.

I often look to my holiday pictures on TV.

To add music the the show: AV + audio source

So I get the audio source in the TV speakers and pictures on the screen.

I will miss this features if it does not come in NL.

Kind regards,

Yann.

 

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Hello MM,

a very good question from you. But I doubt you'll get an answer here in this forum because no B&O developer is a member of Beoworld.

My personal opinion is simply that the new generation of B&O developers don't know much about Masterlink. I got this conclusion after testing a BeoRemote One with my Masterlink system. It's a perfect remote for the new NL Beovisions (eg MyButtons), no doubt. You can also use BR One with a standalone Masterlink device with no regret. But if you want to use it with a Masterlink SYSTEM it's frustrating. It's possible but very difficult to start a Beovision in audio mode or to get access to a device located in mainroom from a linkroom; AV and LINK commands are not available, you have to set BR One in a special mode first. Other commands available on Beo4 under LIST are not available at all with BR One (eg LINK-AV).

Sometimes I would like to sent an invitation to this new generation of young developers to show them all those stunning features of a Masterlink system in my home.

I'm sure they know much more about a SONOS system than a Masterlink system!

Regards

Räuber
Carolpa wrote:

Hi MM

To my opinion NL is totally about AV; it is called: JOIN.

If I listen to f.e. the Moment I can start the BV11 with JOIN; a short info screen is shown (as you know) then the screen is blacked out and I listen to the Audio source of the Moment

If I watch a Video source I can start the sound of the Video source on a Essence mkII by choosing the JOIN function.

Maybe I missed something, but isn't this in principle the same?

JOIN is nothing special in a masterlink system; it's called LINK or you simply switch on a Beolink active or passive.

@Jann: Good point!

Raeuber wrote:

a very good question from you. But I doubt you'll get an answer here in this forum because no B&O developer is a member of Beoworld.

Maybe not a member, but a reader!

 

Geoff Martin isn't a menber either, but he often pops up, when he is needed.

I am pretty sure, that there are more of the Struer guys, who are peeping in to the forum once in a while.

Here is the chance for them to add something to this ;-)

And how about an (experienced) dealer amongst the Beoworlders. Dealers (can) have access to more background information, that might provide a factual answer.

 

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

YannChris wrote:

To Carolpa

The AV function is not exactly like you describe it.

I often look to my holiday pictures on TV.

To add music the the show: AV + audio source

So I get the audio source in the TV speakers and pictures on the screen.

I will miss this features if it does not come in NL.

Kind regards,

Yann.

That was available on f.e. AV9000 but it didn't work that way, picture of the TV with sound of a audiomaster, on the later Beosystem 3 based tv's.

There for it is not a NL thing...................

YannChris wrote:

To Carolpa

The AV function is not exactly like you describe it.

I often look to my holiday pictures on TV.

To add music the the show: AV + audio source

So I get the audio source in the TV speakers and pictures on the screen.

I will miss this features if it does not come in NL.

Kind regards,

Yann.

That was available on f.e. AV9000 but it didn't work that way, picture of the TV with sound of a audiomaster, on the later Beosystem 3 based tv's.

There for it is not a NL thing...................

Sorry Carolpa,

I use this function on my BS3 based BV9 with a Tvix on the VMEM input.

The audio source is a BC2 with a Playmaker on the AUX input (Playmaker is linked to a NAS and controlled through an iPad).

The command  sequence is this one:

- VMEM + A.AUX

Kind regards,

Yann.

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