(and I still need to actually buy an Avant first anyway!)
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What's better - an MX6000 or an Avant 28?
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when you say "Red Eye" , do you mean a B&O DVD Controller ??
like these recently sold ones on ebay -
item number 110465442451 or 170440129761
and just in case you missed it, these are Lee's findings over the years
Here are my findings with CRT Televisions. I would also like the input of Jason at Iconic too here.. although he may not be as experienced (in time) dealing with the products, he invariably goes through the same rigmorole of faults and talks a lot of sense!
BeoVision 1 - Bulletproof.. never had a tube fail in all my time. Incredibly reliable.
BeoCenter 1 - Tube bulletproof, DVD Mech flaky as hell.. replaced loads.
MX Range - Tube bulletproof, never replaced one yet and never had any problems. A great TV.
AV9000 - Tube okay, seen a few blown but not loads. Usually the mechanical curtains that die or the VCR Mech goes boom.
Curved Screen Avant - 28" getting very flaky, blowing regularly. 32" seem a lot stronger, only ever seen 2 blown.
RF Screen Avant - Never had a 28" blow on me and have never heard of one going, but have seen a number of 32" versions gone.
BeoVision 3 - Never seen a 28" blown, but seen quite a few 32" versions gone. The 'Red Lines' are a dead giveaway!
As for the older LX ranges and the like, i rarely see them to be honest so cannot comment. However, i regularly get people talking to me with LX5500's, LX6000's and the like still going strong today!!
Take from that what you will - it's just an honest account of my experiences dealing with B&O day-to-day...
when you say "Red Eye" , do you mean a B&O DVD Controller ??
like these recently sold ones on ebay -
item number 110465442451 or 170440129761
Yes, that's the one - mine was 220558144342... assuming I've bought the right thing then hopefully I've got a bit of a bargain there, as the other ones went for £35-£45.
But I still need to actually get an Avant - I suppose I can sell it on if not... I had seen Lee's comments on that thread but thank you for pointing them out. Seemingly then, the ones to avoid are the earlier 28" ones and the later flat screen 32"s? So I guess if I want a 32" then I'm better off going for an older curved screen model and the 28 inch one to get is the RF version?
I guess it's better to take my time and get the research right rather than buy one quickly and regret it later.
Being as Beo4 remotes seem to go for around £70 a time on eBay at the moment, I guess it's a great advantage to try and get one where the remote is included in the deal? Or would I miss out on much by trying to operate an Avant with a Beolink 1000?
I guess what I'm trying to ask is, would you say having a Beo4 is necessary to operate an Avant, or just desirable?
Beo4 is definitely preferable. Consider trying to get an Avant with a built in DVD player rather than a built in VCR, and if possible one with a Beo4. The RF version is preferable..
If you sign up to Beoworld as a silver or gold member you will have access to the user guides as well!
yes, you got a super bargain there, what is the code / model number on the DVD controller, that will tell you what DVD players can be operated by the Beo4 remote control when the scart cable is plugged into the back of an Avant, go for a 32inch with the Beo4 remote included if you can, there are plenty of good deals around for these TV's now :-)
If the DVD1 aint connected by scart it will not work with a Beolink remote.
The remote signal comes from the Beovision to the DVD1 or whatever is connected.
Its funny when you look at ads for dvd1 and people asking if the remote is included.
The answer is no as DVD1 is controlled through the Beovision where a remote is standard.
Thank you! But shouldn't the buttons on the front of the machine at least make it do *something* when a DVD is put in, even if there's no SCART lead connected to it?
Funnily enough I have just managed to buy a red-eye off eBay for £7, so maybe I will ditch the DVD1 idea anyway...
I don't know really. I never had a DVD1 so I can't say but as its really no use of dvd without a screen and knowing the B&O products are mostly designed together you can't have one without the other.
A VX7000 video does only eject if that's anything to go by.
My CRT experience:
Beovision L2800 was rebuild in the power supply as far as I noticed of the shown repair bill. It worked great and did when I sold it with original Beolink video.
Beovision LX5500. Dead beolink 1000mkIII. Software update and RF connection changed but otherwise still running great. Beolink was fixed immediately after arrivial.
Beovision AV9000 with a dead monitor/screen/top part. B&O serviced the powersupply and other things twice. After that it is back to be working great. No video problems yet.
Of course the DVD should work with the buttons on the front. Leave this one alone - it is broken. An Avant DVD will be rather more expensive because, as you have already worked out, it is much more desirable! Lee is selling a 32" one for £895.
My experience:
Avant DVD 32" - blew a capacitor after one year - no problems since.
LX6000 - just started to have an earthing issue - will be fixed!
AV9000 - lovely set though VCR is a VX7000 and a bit flaky!
MX2000 - don't touch these.
8902 - gorgeous picture but too old - a variety of circuit problems though tube still fine.
BV10 - no clouding issues in mine!
My B&O Icons:
MX2000 - don't touch these.
Well, why not, if you consider your "investment" expendable - certainly not worth repairing if you need any fancier spare parts or somebody doing it for you. I paid 31 euros for my externally very good white specimen, spent half an hour fixing bad solderings, and it has given great service since. The picture is a bit dim, but using an RGB signal from an STB it is much, much sharper than either my MX4002 or MX6000 (both have lousy RGB switching, which applies to all of this chassis family having two SCART inputs). You can actually read the smaller sports score graphics on the MX2000!
The MX2000 is fine if you don't pay too much. I paid 20 pounds for mine, it looks smart in a fetching shade of red and the picture is fine through a freeview box that I bought for a similarly nominal sum.
It is goes wrong I am likely to replace rather than repair, and it's not suitable as a main TV, but as an extra TV mine was a bargain!
Simon
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