chris wrote:

Here it is. Be it Zenith or Valjoux(ETA) only from 93 did Rolex make an effort to make be less reliant on other companies...

 

http://bjsonline.com/watches/articles/0014.shtml

 

Sorry to start an entirely off topic watch thread about Rolex etc

As I said Chris, if you sincerely want to learn about Rolex, visit www.rolexforums.com with a HUMBLE attitude. It's a forum very much like beoworld, friendly, with massive knowledge. Don't believe everything you read on the internet, that you don't know the source of.

bayerische wrote:

chris wrote:

Here it is. Be it Zenith or Valjoux(ETA) only from 93 did Rolex make an effort to make be less reliant on other companies...

 

http://bjsonline.com/watches/articles/0014.shtml

 

Sorry to start an entirely off topic watch thread about Rolex etc

Chris, please...

 

As I mentioned the Rolex Daytona (one model of Rolex) used a Zenith movement before, and as you point out in your link, not any more.

You shouldn't pull the whole Rolex range over the early Daytona. Almost all Rolex models use a movement specific for that model, since Rolex has made their own movements long before 1993. Note 1993 mentioned a CHRONOGRAPH movement. The Rolex Daytona is the ONLY Rolex being a Chronograph.

 

Yachtmaster?

jldmelb wrote:

bayerische wrote:

chris wrote:

Here it is. Be it Zenith or Valjoux(ETA) only from 93 did Rolex make an effort to make be less reliant on other companies...

 

http://bjsonline.com/watches/articles/0014.shtml

 

Sorry to start an entirely off topic watch thread about Rolex etc

Chris, please...

 

As I mentioned the Rolex Daytona (one model of Rolex) used a Zenith movement before, and as you point out in your link, not any more.

You shouldn't pull the whole Rolex range over the early Daytona. Almost all Rolex models use a movement specific for that model, since Rolex has made their own movements long before 1993. Note 1993 mentioned a CHRONOGRAPH movement. The Rolex Daytona is the ONLY Rolex being a Chronograph.

 

Yachtmaster?

Unfortunately... a bit confusing.

CHRONOGRAPH vs CHRONOMETER...

burantek wrote:

jldmelb wrote:

bayerische wrote:

chris wrote:

Here it is. Be it Zenith or Valjoux(ETA) only from 93 did Rolex make an effort to make be less reliant on other companies...

 

http://bjsonline.com/watches/articles/0014.shtml

 

Sorry to start an entirely off topic watch thread about Rolex etc

Chris, please...

 

As I mentioned the Rolex Daytona (one model of Rolex) used a Zenith movement before, and as you point out in your link, not any more.

You shouldn't pull the whole Rolex range over the early Daytona. Almost all Rolex models use a movement specific for that model, since Rolex has made their own movements long before 1993. Note 1993 mentioned a CHRONOGRAPH movement. The Rolex Daytona is the ONLY Rolex being a Chronograph.

 

Yachtmaster?

Unfortunately... a bit confusing.

CHRONOGRAPH vs CHRONOMETER...

haha close enough!! 😂😎

jldmelb wrote:

burantek wrote:

jldmelb wrote:

bayerische wrote:

chris wrote:

Here it is. Be it Zenith or Valjoux(ETA) only from 93 did Rolex make an effort to make be less reliant on other companies...

 

http://bjsonline.com/watches/articles/0014.shtml

 

Sorry to start an entirely off topic watch thread about Rolex etc

Chris, please...

 

As I mentioned the Rolex Daytona (one model of Rolex) used a Zenith movement before, and as you point out in your link, not any more.

You shouldn't pull the whole Rolex range over the early Daytona. Almost all Rolex models use a movement specific for that model, since Rolex has made their own movements long before 1993. Note 1993 mentioned a CHRONOGRAPH movement. The Rolex Daytona is the ONLY Rolex being a Chronograph.

 

Yachtmaster?

Unfortunately... a bit confusing.

CHRONOGRAPH vs CHRONOMETER...

 

 

haha close enough!! 😂😎

Nope. 😂

Chronometer is a certification from an independent source. The watch has to be accurate to -4  -  +6 sec/24h to get a COSC certification "Contrôle Officiel Suisse des Chronomètres". Almost all Rolex models are certified, and thus called Chronometer on the dial. "superlative chronometer officially certified" can be found printed on Rolex dials if the watch is a Chronometer.

A Chronograph is a watch that has timekeeping and stopwatch functions. No certification.

PS, the Yachtmaster is an awesome watch.

So should we steer this thread back on topic? I'll be skinned once Jandy or Puncher finds this thread.... Right Burantek? 😂

chris wrote:

Here it is. Be it Zenith or Valjoux(ETA) only from 93 did Rolex make an effort to make be less reliant on other companies...

btw zenith is a manufactured movement and it is not comparable with a valjoux eta... some rolex daytona's with zenith movement are sought after by collectors... e.g. paul newman daytona.

bayerische wrote:

Don't believe everything you read on the internet, that you don't know the source of.

bayerische is right, don't believe everything you read on "the virtually madhouse"... ;-)

things like software bugs in the tv's

don't seem to have any issues with any other equipment in my house that's not a computer with all these software updates

i wouldn't mind if the gear was state of the art , it isn't

just buggy software badly programmed

that's what's putting me off any new bno kit

bayerische wrote:

So should we steer this thread back on topic? I'll be skinned once Jandy or Puncher finds this thread.... Right Burantek?

Certainly!

To expand on my earlier post...

I guess what is stopping me from buying B&o... We live in a throw away society today. eProducts have a shelf life measured in weeks. The shelf life is now driven more by software than radical hardware changes. I think that what appealed to me most was always B&o's way of thinking outside of the box a bit. I think they might have lost a bit of that edge trying to keep up in software circles... something they just can't do... the result being fairly uninspired products with a slew of faults from the day they launch all for incredible sums of money.

It has been mentioned a million times on here before... outsource the software. Concentrate on brilliant designs. Merge the two into a well finished, competent product that is worth the entry price and that continues in primary service for 10 years before retiring into the enthusiast world.

My biggest stopper is the TV pricing. 

Be it right or wrong, the prices are high. The audio products are reasonably priced I would say. BL5 is great value for what you get.

I do not think pricing on it's own is stopper as such definitely a major factor ,if that was the case look around and lots of good second hand around nearly half price or less  not exactly flying off the shelve??? is it???