dilznik wrote:

I'm going to go ahead and stick with the comment I made about Euros having generally better aesthetic taste than Americans.  Find a few middle class (like low level white collar cubicle dwellers) Americans and Europeans and ask them what they'd buy for A/V (or just A) if they had, say, $10,000 and it had to fit in their living room.  The Americans would probably go for some god awful looking high performance component system that takes up a lot of space but sounds great.  At least my friends I asked yesterday all did.

Then ask your European friends the same thing.  You might find that the Europeans are more likely to say B&O or Bose or something with a better form factor than, say, BW.  Well, among my friends anyway.  You might have different friends.

 

Also, I think B&O products are actually cheaper in the US than Europe.  It's certainly cheaper in the US than Germany.

You are probably right.  For $10,000, most Americans would buy the system you described.  However $10,000 won't buy much at the B&O store.

I don't actually think B&O products are much cheaper in the US than the EU on average because most of the B&O sales are in the high tax states. California has some of the highest taxes in the US.  The sales tax where I live is 10.2 percent.

As for the Beosound 5, I like it a lot and have had it for almost a year.  I use MOTS most of the time.  I did have to remove the Christmas music because BS5 doesn't recognize it as seasonal music.  Maybe here is an idea for an added feature. Ha!

Don't have a Rolex but I am thinking about it.

I probably do have different friends.

This thread has some comparison prices Europe verses USA

linder wrote:

You are probably right.  For $10,000, most Americans would buy the system you described.  However $10,000 won't buy much at the B&O store.

 

$10k would get you the quintessential B&O system: BS3200 and BL6000 (maybe even BL8000, not sure).

Or it'll get you the NAD C-785 surround receiver, NAD C545 CD player, NAD IPD-2 iPod dock, Bowers and Wilkins ST-8 fronts, XTC middle, and XT2 rears.  But it looks pretty blah.  Probably sounds good.

Two simple reasons:

1. Space:

Despite gifts to my children, parents, and with three different properties, one can still accumulate a large amount of Bang & Olufsen product over the years since 1965.

2. Subdural / Epidural Hematomas:

Wife's access to rolling pin, sledge hammer, or large Swiss cowbells.

Obviously not much is stopping me since I just upgraded my BS1 & Panisonic 42" panel with a BV 4-50, BS3, BL 7-2. I am loving it so far and I now have my mac mini connected through out the whole house with my link speakers!!!

Dave wrote:

I'm pretty decided that i will not be buying anymore B&O brand new (BeoTime is the exception). It's too expensive now, and dammit, it's too often that there is a problem, or the product has a fault, ridiculous!

On the CRT vs flatscreen front, i will be keeping the CRT technology in my home for as long as humanly possible. BeoVision 10 is a good start, but there have been faulty units!

you're right dave, i use my av5 as long as possible. i was thinking to upgrade with a beovision 10, but the sound is not the same and i'm waiting for a full backlight led...

burantek wrote:

Hmmm...

Rolex, B&o, etc...

What core pieces (the hub of a collection) would I never sell?

i don't have a collection... only core pieces. ;-)

burantek wrote:

My core Rolex is 40+ years old...

my rolex sea-dweller 4000 is one of the last produced and a good investment... 1+ years old  ;-)

burantek wrote:

My core BL/BM5000 is 40+ years old...

my beolab 5000 is 40+ years old and also a good investment... ;-)

burantek wrote:

My core Hasselblad is 40+ years old...

nice... i'm thinking to buy a leica iiif

burantek wrote:

My wife is 39... time to go!

my wife is 31... ;-)

burantek wrote:

What do you suppose the collectibility of a BS5 will be in 2050? 😂

;-)

bayerische wrote:

chris wrote:

I have been looking for the site that has Rolex watches that don't use in house movements but until then .....

 

http://worldofrolex.blogspot.com/2009/07/swiss-eta-movement.html 

Even mentioning "Replica Rolex" in the same text as Rolex, makes this page obvious as trying to missinform potential Rolex buyers, thus making them more susceptible to a scam. Rolex does not use ETA. It's very common for Scammers to market their Rolex or Rolex replicas as using the same ETA movement as Rolex. Rolex did use a non in-house movement in the Daytona, but this was a modified Zenith movement.

If you want to learn more about Rolex I suggest you not to google, since Rolex is the most copied/faked watch in the world, but go to www.rolexforums.com. If you dare, with the possibility of being banned, ask about ETA in a Rolex. 😂😂😂

eta in a rolex? ;-)

if you're looking for a real manufactured swiss watch as a investment and/or to pass on to your children, there's only two brands i can recommend to you:

- patek philippe

- rolex (submariner, sea-dweller, daytona, but only the steel models)

i.m.o. the daytona (steel) is overrated, since i saw plenty at bucherer... the submariner no date is a good, robust entrance model and the successor of the real james bond watch (submariner 100m). if you like it more unique, than go for the sea-dweller 1220m... but this modell was produced till 2008/2009...

Here it is. Be it Zenith or Valjoux(ETA) only from 93 did Rolex make an effort to make be less reliant on other companies...

http://bjsonline.com/watches/articles/0014.shtml

Sorry to start an entirely off topic watch thread about Rolex etc

chris wrote:

Here it is. Be it Zenith or Valjoux(ETA) only from 93 did Rolex make an effort to make be less reliant on other companies...

 

http://bjsonline.com/watches/articles/0014.shtml

 

Sorry to start an entirely off topic watch thread about Rolex etc

Chris, please...

As I mentioned the Rolex Daytona (one model of Rolex) used a Zenith movement before, and as you point out in your link, not any more.

You shouldn't pull the whole Rolex range over the early Daytona. Almost all Rolex models use a movement specific for that model, since Rolex has made their own movements long before 1993. Note 1993 mentioned a CHRONOGRAPH movement. The Rolex Daytona is the ONLY Rolex being a Chronograph.