BeoAnna wrote:

...though the Balance (as a stereo pair anyway) costs more than a BL17 pair and they also sound better.

Oh!? Well now you made me think. 🙂 I do have a pair of BL17 and I am actually delighted how they sound... ...that would make a pair of Balance an intriguing option. Especially, because they are based on Mozart platform - so pretty futureproof.

mbee wrote:

Which explains why the will also release a USB audio dongle. The 500 could be an audiophile wireless headphone for home use.

That would indeed be my hope :).

Interesting discovery about the Beoplay 500! I thought the dongle would be for the PS/PC Beoplay Portal, but yeah actually it may share the same kind of proprietary low-latency and hi-res wireless connection with the Beoplay 500 too.

BeoAnna wrote:

Curly wrote:

I'm hoping for a BL17 replacement most of all.

Absolutely not happening from what I’ve gathered.

I was extremely close to getting a pair of 17’s before they were EOL’d but back then I thought that they were going to be replaced and hence I held off. Your BL17 replacement is the Balance. Seriously speaking though the Balance (as a stereo pair anyway) costs more than a BL17 pair and they also sound better. The Balance is honestly more deserving of the BeoLab prefix but I can see why they still call it a BeoSound. I’m aware that they’re very different products from a placement and mourning perspective, but it is what it is right now.

Also given current prices even if a BL17 replacement were to come into fruition it would probably cost more than the BL18’s (at launch anyway). That said from what I’ve heard there’s definitely no plans to launch a successor to the BL17 anytime soon.

It's a pity that Balance and other Beosound Mozart-based products don't support WiSA though, while Beolab 17 do. Perhaps that's what now defines Beosound vs Beolab naming, the support to WiSA?

Anna, it's good to have you posting more frequently on the Board. You've had some recent shopping experience that's been fun to hear about. Thanks for sharing your insights.

RE: Balance instead of BL17 replacement... I've heard folks claim Balance sounds amazing and could maybe even serve as an informal BL17 replacement.

But of course, without Powerlink and the ability to connect to BeoVisions... and without a really good wall-mount solution so the speaker could function as a surround speaker... I think Balance needs a bit of work to be a BL17 replacement formally. Frankly, I think the design doesn't lend itself to being a wall-mounted surround speaker or front-left or front-right like a BL17. I know STB has some wall brackets for it but... aesthetically, it seems like mounting a flower pot on the wall.

I'm still hoping to see a BeoLab bookshelf!

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moxxey wrote:

swestland wrote:

If that's going to be the case many Eclipse owners will be slapped in the face again. As with the v1 they have been told the screen would be upgradeable. Then v2 came out as LG changed the panels, and now with v2 it could happen again. So this supposed 'partnership' is just B&O buying LG screens...

Who said there's a partnership? I think that's just something speculated here and sales people at your dealership like to tell you to get people to buy an Eclipse. LG doesn't design panels for B&O. It might help them link up their products through software, but not much more beyond this.

Thinking you can drop in a new LG panel in 5 years is bizarre. Would you truly believe the LG 2021 panel (G1) will be exactly the same shape and design as a 2026 panel? Incredible.

Interestingly though, the B&O page does state (perhaps oddly) "A Fusion of Sound and Images... Eclipse is the first result of a new strategic technology partnership between LG Electronics and Bang & Olufsen. 👍

https://www.bang-olufsen.com/en/gb/televisions/beovision-eclipse 

I would like to see a good vertical speaker with a clock display like the old Beosound 3. No Kvadrat, just aluminium, clock display, reliable, robust and good sound.

BOSE has something like this with its Home Speaker 500 but... it's no B&O ;-)

Curly wrote:

Anna, it's good to have you posting more frequently on the Board. You've had some recent shopping experience that's been fun to hear about. Thanks for sharing your insights.

Haha my pleasure. It’s been quite a ride this year that’s for sure and I was dreadfully close to just throwing in the towel and giving up with the brand. Been really busy with life and this was really the worst time for both of my new B&O purchases of the year to go wrong (one Balance and one H95). Oh well. I know I come across as a bit “ranty” at times but I’m exceedingly passionate about my hobbies and I take my music listening extremely seriously since it’s my downtime from life and to get away from my monitor.

Most importantly though I actually dedicate most of my time to music buying and listening, so it annoys me to no end when my equipment which is supposed to help me deliver my music to me falls apart for incredibly silly reasons.

But yeah I saw STB’s Balance wall mount and can only go “lol.” And this is coming from someone who had her BeoSound 2 wall mounted. The Balance just doesn’t work on the wall unless you have some very intelligently made custom furniture to blend with it. Will definitely miss the 17’s though they were really wall (and even ceiling) mount friendly, so on that basis alone it was a little weird seeing them discontinued without a replacement.

Time will tell I guess, sometimes I still wonder if I should’ve picked up a final batch BL17 when I had the chance.

Mmm, a speaker that looks like a copy of the Beolab 50, but with the size of a BS2 or BS Balance.

Maybe slightly bigger.

That would be nice, such a timeless design!