V1 and lack of audio codecs such as DTS 5.1

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Hi, was thinking about the fact that V1 don't support DTS 5.1 or many other formats such as DTS HD.

if I where to play this from a bluray player it is possible that the player could decode it to PCM.

However(!) what if I would use my Mac to play material with DTS 5.1? What would happen? I am not sure plex or vlc can decode and send the audio as PCM.

And how does the DTS 2,0 work in the V1? Does it take DTS 5.1 and only decode right and left front channels?

A bit confused :)

Michael wrote:
However(!) what if I would use my Mac to play material with DTS 5.1? What would happen? I am not sure plex or vlc can decode and send the audio as PCM.

or does the Mac lack's codec's? Anyway, I know for sure that XBMC can convert DTS5.1 to PCM

Michael wrote:
And how does the DTS 2,0 work in the V1?

DTS2.0??? Isn't this equal to PCM?

 

The interface of Plex/XBMC is superb. But I changed from a MacMini to DuneHD because of the quality of sound and the decoding capabilities of the Dune (Flac multichannel, DTS HD MA, DD TrueHD etc)!

 

 

 

No. Dts is a format that is encoded and makes the sound track take up less data. When it is decoded you get the real sound (PCM : pulse code modulation).

I googled dune hd. It is not a software but a hardware player. Not interesting for me, I want to play via my mac over HDMI.
But not for dts2.0

Carolpa wrote:
But not for dts2.0

 

If it is DTS then it is encoded. 

Michael wrote:

Carolpa wrote:
But not for dts2.0

If it is DTS then it is encoded. 

so is WAV. PCM, etc.......

ever encoded a format to DTS 2.0?

What do you get? 

Carolpa wrote:

so is WAV. PCM, etc.......

ever encoded a format to DTS 2.0?

What do you get?

Yes, wav is pcm.

This lack of codecs was of concern to me when I was evaluating the set with a view to purchase.

I'm not sure on which thread without searching, but I did ask Steve at Sounds Heavenly on this one, and as I presumed from the experience of owners with 7 series TVs/Beosystem 3's etc, and from the supported formats guide for the V1, that a similar solution applies.

Basically the V1 supports linear PCM.  As It's a multi-channel processor, one would assume that also means multi-channel PCM

Most Bluray players will either output the 'raw' bitstream, that is to say the lossless compressed, Dolby Digital True HD, OR DTS HD Master audio file, OR they can decompress it onboard, and output it as high res linear, multi channel PCM

In fact, the audio file is PCM anyway; it's just compressed but without information loss, and the player decompresses, or 'decodes' it and sends it as decompressed or decoded if you will,  LPCM which the V1 should handle perfectly OK.

If someone else can confirm, that would be very helpful as well - the theories one thing, but having it happen is another - I don't want to add B&O speakers to my V1 with the intention of selling all my separates kit, only to find it won't work re the aforementioned codecs either!

Kind Regards

John... 😐

 

Confirmation

Let the connected device decode the format to (multichannel) PCM. Input this format to your V1.

Then all formats are possible (DTS5.1 DTS HD MA, DD TrueHD, etc)

But in this case it's decoded by your cheap ass blu ray player or mediaplayer instead of your dedicated surround processor in the beovision.

When there should be no noticable difference in soundquality, why do we have dedicated separate surround processors?

 

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