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Peter2 wrote:

Trade - in value may be painful now, but only if you opt in to the upgrade game :) 

But the whole point in B&O was that it kept an excellent trade-in value.

I guess I'm the only one that is suprised that the trade-in value of a 1-year-old MKIII BV7-40 shouldn't be only £1900 :)

Thats a Hell of a DROP...Will make me think again if trade-ins going to be that low and how much would a dealer add on top of that £1,000..£2000? I know they have to make something!

Hello Sir..We have a Bv 7-40 Mk3 for £4000 a big saving if you don't want the mk 4

Shame about the trade-in?????? But a nice re-sale maybe?? for the dealer?

I was hopeing to up grade will just have to see now.

moxxey wrote:

Peter2 wrote:

Trade - in value may be painful now, but only if you opt in to the upgrade game :) 

But the whole point in B&O was that it kept an excellent trade-in value.

I guess I'm the only one that is suprised that the trade-in value of a 1-year-old MKIII BV7-40 shouldn't be only £1900 :)

Trust me, you aint the only one suprised...

...But, at this time I'm beginning to wonder if 100Hz would really be worth almost a £3k upgrade (if you consider the BluRay would be almost the other £700 of the upgrade cost). Cause, at the minute the screen is still pretty damn good when supplied with a good source, so I think I'll suffer it for a while 😕.

As always it is down to supply and demand - if people are prepared to sell for those prices, no dealer will offer more. If no one sells, then a dealer may be prepared to offer more.

Trading in my BV5 was very painful, but it was my choice at the time. Definitely try to avoid another hit like that in future, and it would be easy with a BV7 mk3 - just keep it!

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Peter2 wrote:

As always it is down to supply and demand - if people are prepared to sell for those prices, no dealer will offer more. If no one sells, then a dealer may be prepared to offer more.

Other way around Peter. It's to do with demand from end users. Problem with dealers in this recession is that they don't want stock. Most new B&O products are ordered on demand. If they start accepting lots of trade-ins, they have a huge list of products they have to sell and also have to somehow get that information to the customer.

Tricky dilemma. As a dealer, you'd rather sell a brand new BV7-40, ordered from B&O, rather than sell a cheap second-hand version from stock.

The reason why I say it's the 'other way around' is that I don't think my or many other dealers care too much if we do not bother trading in our old TVs, whatever price we choose to sell.

moxxey wrote:

Tricky dilemma. As a dealer, you'd rather sell a brand new BV7-40, ordered from B&O, rather than sell a cheap second-hand version from stock.

The reason why I say it's the 'other way around' is that I don't think my or many other dealers care too much if we do not bother trading in our old TVs, whatever price we choose to sell.

In addition, when the dealer sells the used unit on to an individual person, they need to provide some sort of guarantee for the unit even though they get none themselves, they will have to sell it on with quite some markup or the operation will be a loss, and in the meantime it is eating storage space and other sales resources. In a word, they aren't exactly looking forward to buying used piece of kit from you.

I believe it is pretty much the same as with cars - at least over here, you usually get a better discount when you pay with cash and don't burden the dealer with your old car but sell it yourself.

moxxey wrote:

Peter2 wrote:

As always it is down to supply and demand - if people are prepared to sell for those prices, no dealer will offer more. If no one sells, then a dealer may be prepared to offer more.

Other way around Peter. It's to do with demand from end users. Problem with dealers in this recession is that they don't want stock. Most new B&O products are ordered on demand. If they start accepting lots of trade-ins, they have a huge list of products they have to sell and also have to somehow get that information to the customer.

Tricky dilemma. As a dealer, you'd rather sell a brand new BV7-40, ordered from B&O, rather than sell a cheap second-hand version from stock.

The reason why I say it's the 'other way around' is that I don't think my or many other dealers care too much if we do not bother trading in our old TVs, whatever price we choose to sell.

The last thing any dealer wants is a trade in. In my experience, this will apply to most areas of business, not just B&O.

If you think your dealers are looking forward to taking your BV7 Mk X in part ex for Mk (X+1) then think again. Their offer prices are not going to impress you!!

This is just the world of televisions today. The price of the today top model depends on research costs, manufacturing costs, dealer advances etc, competitors prices etc. and how much people are willing to pay. It can´t be set to what specs the next model will have.

Whenever you take the plunge and buy a TV you must be prepared that a new model will come, sooner or later (probably sooner). For 99% this is not a problem, they buy the TV and are happpy with that until it breaks down, becomes too small etc.

For the last % it hurts trying to always have the latest version.

B&O has been knowned for a good second hand value. Even if it's falling harder today, it will still be better then other brands.

Fo myself I haven't yet got a flat TV. I was a little tempted to get a BV9 or BV4 before the coming price rises, but I wait 'cause I would like to see the BV7-55 before I choose. But when I have chosen I will stick with that and be happy as I have been with my LX for 18 years now.

Exactly Daniel!

Stick to it and be happy. Because if you want the latest and the best, you will never find it! There is always something else that you can add. If you finally buy the perfect setup, someone else can come along and add diamonds all over it, time and time again.

I dont know about you guys, but during my typical day after work, or in the weekend, my TV never stay on for longer than 15mins. To watch a movie 1.5hrs but that hardly happens. So what is the need to have the latest uptodate stuff?

Personally, speakers would be a better investment for me, since you use them for music and whilst watching the tv and I love my music. Speakers also dont tend to change too often (spec wise) so your money goes further.

To cut a long story short, a better investment would have been a pair of BL5 instead of the BV7, but im not complaining

timhanna wrote:

I dont know about you guys, but during my typical day after work, or in the weekend, my TV never stay on for longer than 15mins

I think that's an exception. Most people watch more TV than that.

BTW I did buy a pair of BL5s. Out of all the B&O equipment I have, they are likely to be the first to go for reasons I've documented elsewhere. I guess we all act and think differently. If we were all the same, life would be boring!

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