Michael wrote:

moxxey wrote:

Michael wrote:

Interesting how this thread went from bashing the tv to people actually liking it :)

Rather strong words? Who was 'bashing' it? Two important points:

1) There are advantages and disadvantages for the Avant. As an example, the sound - to me at least - requires the addition of speakers, as it's not quite up to the level of a BV11. This isn't bashing, though. I guess they were limited to what they could do with a sound bar that moves back up in to the TV.

2) When any new product is released, it often takes time for people to convince themselves. On top of this, as I've said previously, when you've only recently invested a lot of money in a new B&O TV, you're going to be more negative than others - that's human nature. You're convincing yourself (rightly or wrongly) that your investment is better than the new product. But, there will always be new products (no doubt a 4K BV11, soon, as an example), so you just have to realise that these new products are only very marginal improvements (if improvements at all - the BV7-55 has way better audio than the Avant and a better panel for HD). Again, this isn't 'bashing'. The Avant can't better everything, in every area, plus come in at a reduced £5999 price point.

Not that harsh, link (urban dictionary). I get that it is annoying when new technology comes out but the thread is about the new tv and a few people were really negative towards it. 

I use beolabs and the internal speakers as center or as the only ones when I don't want to play to loud. BL7-6 is a huge deep speaker so it cant compare with a "flat" tv. I don't know how they sound so I can't say anything about the sound.

Agreed. Totally understood as a lot of recent TV purchasers felt frustrated by the 'new' model arriving. I said nothing at all apart from my TV was coming and I received blame for moaning about HDMI 2.0. The 4K discussion was also off-base as it benefits all content at 1080 and above.

I had a BV7 and it was just time to move on. I realised that the technology in every area had been improved upon; engine, sound, panel, remote, connectivity and even stand.

On every count, the BV Avant is an improvement over what was the latest thing last year - BV11 and BV7. Thats just how it goes and that includes superior sound and picture. And it'll be the same next year when they bring out something again.

Lets be happy with what we have and for what others have as well. And lets really understand the technology before bashing it.

Mine's in. Ton of new software features not documented here, especially in the sound setup area. Hours of fun. The sound combination with the BL18 and BL2 is excellent. It would seem to me that they've done some clever work in software to achieve a perfect balance across the speakers. They just seem to pair themselves better together. Even the BL2 is well moderated, crisp and more controlled.

Bv7Mk3 wrote:

@ Moxxey.. Nice one! I too could be pulling the trigger on one, hevic and the non projector out! Is the only let down for me BUT the Avant has so much more in so many ways and the projector out can be worked around :)

 

The pic is fab....

How do you work around the missing projector output? I really enjoy my projector and the missing output make me speculate a lot on alternatives.

Congrats mawheele, enjoy your new avant. 

I love the new avant, congrats to those that have purchased! I was really impressed with the sound, better than the old avant.

Off the back of people upgrading to the avant, I managed to get a bv-7 40 mk6 for a great price!  I assume that the used values are going to drop as the avant is half the price of other sets.

Why would you pay £6k for a 2nd hand tv when you can get a new 4k ultra hd for around the same?

Its about time B&O started selling something that is just about reasonable pricewise compared to other brands

mawheele wrote:

Mine's in. Ton of new software features not documented here, especially in the sound setup area. Hours of fun. The sound combination with the BL18 and BL2 is excellent. It would seem to me that they've done some clever work in software to achieve a perfect balance across the speakers. They just seem to pair themselves better together. Even the BL2 is well moderated, crisp and more controlled.

Excellent - glad you are having so much fun.

Of course we shall need a more detailed review 🙂

And pictures as well 😁

But only when you have finished having the fun !

moxxey wrote:

elephant wrote:

@moxxey - I too didn't see that one coming !

LOL. Well, the only reason it happened was due to me considering moving up to my dealer's MK1 ex-demo BV11-55 (from my 46"). I had second thoughts after viewing the Avant a few times, he gave me a great price I couldn't refuse, job done. I'll miss my red fretted BV11, but I have an orange-fretted BV10-32 in the other room :)

I think this was a good move Chris. The 7-55 is absolutely huge and you need a big space for it to 'look right' in my opinion. There's no question that it's a fantastic television and arguably the best B&O have made to date. Too early to comment on the Avant but I do think both the 7-55s handled motion better than the 11s. As you know, I too was considering this TV. In fact I actually bought it, but on reflection I then changed my mind the following day due to its size. The Avant is special and I love it but I am not one for being an early adopter of new technology. I prefer to wait for at least one if not a couple of revisions before going that route and in the meantime have bought an old BV9 as I am sure you have seen in my posts. Always wanted to own one and like you, I was offered an excellent price that I just couldn't say no to.

Couple of things I am curious about...

1. Do you really think the Avant does produce a better picture than the 11? What footage did you watch that led you to this conclusion as I hadn't noticed the same during my demos at several stores?

2.  You're new black A9, will that go to the front or the back? I am guessing the back but then how does the sound give you stereo if there is no distance between two separates? Or, will it serve as a 6th or 7th speaker in your setup?

Simon.