I appreciate what you’re saying Simon and if pricing for the BeoVision Eclipse is over £10,000 then I too will give it a miss. I would then see what B&O have in-store for their OLED version of the BV14 or whatever they decide to call it. If that too turns out to be disappointing then I’ve decided that I’ll probably go for the Loewe Bild 7 which according to people on another forum has also good build quality and is supplied with Aluminium remote and has an option for a motorised stand. Either way, I’m going to be a little patient and give B&O a chance and see what their answer is to other competitors in the market before I make a final decision.Fair comment AngloApulian and I too will wait to see what B&O bring out. However, I feel 100% sure based on recent years and releases that it will be nothing more than an LG OLED panel with a better speaker and a more robust remote in fancy packaging. If you're happy to pay over £10,000 for that then good luck to you and I wish you well. Me? I am renovating a couple of properties at the moment, one to live in and one to rent out and I am spending a lot of money on them. I am not even considering B&O equipment. That say's it all doesn't it? No value for money with B&O whatsoever anymore, just fancy packaging relying on a brand name slowly fading into oblivion with nothing to back it up in terms of value. If I am mistaken in this thinking, please respond explaining the value in me paying the extra cash? I think the Sony's and LGs are remarkable and hung on a wall with a sound bar is a great look, great experience and great selling point. A remote is just a remote. Cheers, Simon.
Time to upgrade?
Yes that's a fair point and I will do the same and wait before purchasing. I won't be ready until late December early January anyway to wire out the homes ready for whatever I put in, but I just can't see where any current B&O will have its place and it saddens me to say so, but at the end of the day I am putting cash into bricks and mortar and architectural design these days, B&O just doesn't have a place on terms of offering me value for money. Much rather build a new kitchen etc.
I would have bought the Horizon at the first day, when he came into the stores. Because of the PUC the B&O Android smart platform was not so important for me. But when i have seen, that there is no possibility to control a motorized stand i could not find an argument to replace our old BV.
I am sure, the Beovision OLED is going to be a wonderful product, but i don't think that the prize is less than two LOEWE Bild 7/9 or two LG Signature TVs.
Funny, I ran a search on the Loewe website for my nearest dealer and the result is:
What is missing to B&O is the proximity dealer network. Look how many Loewe dealers compared to the fading B&O network...
I guess if B&O had choosen to distribute through dealers, who sell a lot of other brands as well, there would be just as many or more. Some of the 'Loewe dealers' have only a few models on a few squaremeters in their shop.
They did not - they went away from that business model - because B&O is about a bit more than selling a tv. Most Loewe buyers buy a tv only - a few maybe also the external speakers.
Of course this leads to fewer dealers and a greater distance between them.
MM
Location: Flensborg————Danmark
No way out, then?
MM
Location: Flensborg————Danmark
Indeed, there aren't many (any?) stand alone Loewe dealers in London......Selfidges and Harrods have sections, and the Selfirdges one disappeared for a while....much as B&O merit some critique, it simply isn't the case that, even in London, there are many places to buy Loewe TVs......my experience with their Airspeaker a few years ago was truly terrible, extremely fiddly to set up and far from stable.......
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