Millemissen wrote:

No review, but my impression listening to the BL17 today.

After readig the review of 9 Lee, I had expected them to be good - but not that good 🤒

Set up as a stereoset (the dealer had only got 1 set), I listened to a couple of U2-tracks.

Very impressive - actually I started looking for a sub (although I knew that there was none).

A videoclip ('acoustic Clapton') with the speakers of the BV11 made me think, this is all I need.

Don't know how they did it, but these rather small LS are really amazing.

 

Maybe these speakers will turn out to be the modern equivalent of the original Beovox S45/S45-2.

Graham

PhilLondon wrote:

The good thing is that the whole B&O range is starting to be more consistent, and is again ahead in term of technologies, with an all digital NL and wireless speakers.

All the Beovisions are now NL, and when we finally get an NL Beosound, which is a matter of weeks, the migration will be complete.

A new Beosound??  Any more details you can share?

A presentation of it has been done in Spain to dealers. (only prototype not working)

A kind of wireless screen/tablet but with some space on the side for maybe some controls.

So, It won't be probably not a 100% touchscreen

The bm5/beosound 5 will stay the flagship of the brand.

I hope it is true. This probably means that the bs5 will be upgraded.

Thanks! 

PhilLondon wrote:

The good thing is that the whole B&O range is starting to be more consistent, and is again ahead in term of technologies, with an all digital NL and wireless speakers.

All the Beovisions are now NL, and when we finally get an NL Beosound, which is a matter of weeks, the migration will be complete.

cool dude wrote:

Totally agree.

B&O moved into the new millenium, finally....
All old and legacy models discontinued and now forging ahead with new models, new tech inside, wireless, acoustic lenses everywhere, ice power everywhere. Great to see finally things coming together. 

Agree ... but how to manage and finance one's own transition ?

I was in the city store yesterday and sketched my configuration and asked them what they would do ... I expected a gradual approach based on coexistence ... to be fair I gave no constraints (such as a budget 😮) ... so their initial recommendation was radical surgery: keep the speakers but drive them via WISA box should/when it arrive/s; remove the ML infrastructure; replace the BVs with an NL BV; replace the Apple ecosystem with a NAS.

In capital terms, that would mean writing off more than 50% of my B&O investment/assets 🙁

Just checked the AU eBay local sales ... 2xBV5s, 1xBV7, 2xBS4 ... seems others are reaching the same conclusions !

9 LEE wrote:

Flappo wrote:

Tbh if that's the best they can do I suggest they shut up shop a la Loewe

Apple will bring a new tv out next year - then bno = kaput !

Sticking bits of wood on a speaker design that's 20 years old , tragic

Flappo, really....  what is the point bothering if you're going to post simple, throwaway drivel like that ? 🙁

I'm all for people having an opinion... and people criticising demonstrating some insight into why they are criticising, but you seem to just pop up these days and have a random empty snipe or rant, then disappear again back under your bridge.  If Apple are going to destroy B&O, then what will happen will happen.  They won't, but that's your opinion - which you are welcome to, of course.

If you hate B&O, or if you just don't care any more, please... save your valuable time and ignore the brand, and this site.  All this does is make you look silly - and personally I think you're more intelligent than that.

 

 

🤒  Well said, Lee.

Flappo keeps dreaming about Apple's new tv, that (according to him) will kill not only B&O -but every other brand...It's 'just around the corner'... yeah - it's been for 2 years now...Flappo just hates everything without a fruit logo. I'm almost starting to miss his old fruity beoworld friend Paul W, who years ago claimed that 'NOBODY buys TV's anymore'...It's all laptops and tablets...

Sorry - this seems to become off-topic...😕
I have stated earlier, that I don't like the design of the BL 18 -and I still think so...
But I'm starting to like the BL 17 (without the 'spider web' or 'Ice fret'). And I'm looking forward to the upcoming Beosound.
I've been buying B&O for more than 30 years now and I hope the best for them. But it doesn't mean that I have to like everything they come up with 😕
But I really don't understand why somebody only uses Beoworld to complain about B&O. To those people I will say: Get a life..!

Flappo wrote:

Tbh if that's the best they can do I suggest they shut up shop a la Loewe

Apple will bring a new tv out next year - then bno = kaput !

Sticking bits of wood on a speaker design that's 20 years old , tragic

Don't feed the Troll!

StUrrock wrote:

Apple are not perfect, but they do seem to deliver usable customer interfaces.

I've got three 27" iMac's at work, along with three iPhones and two iPads.  At home I've got another three 27" iMacs, four iPhones and two iPads. You could say then that I'm an Apple Evangelist.

However, they won't be killing anyone off - and they won't be replacing anyone.  There will always be space for a niche or a differentiation.

We have Hybrid cars, so why do we still buy Diesel and Petrol cars? We can shop online and have our groceries and clothes delivered yet we still go to the stores..  We have tablets, so why do we read physical newspapers and magazines?  We have digital storage, so why does vinyl and CD still sell? 

It's an and/or world we live in, not either/or.  Both can exist.

It's the same as Apple and any other brand.  Apple won't be killing B&O off - and I doubt they care about trying...

Lee