Obviously the conflict between the designers from the speakers department and their colleagues from the displays department could not be resolved. This is the result. A design nightmare.

BenSA wrote:

First impression is when you first see it without having delved deeply into the technical figures etc....they could have said that it looks hideous or it doesn't have this or that like some people on the forum who haven't even seen it or tested it. They have reserved their final judgement for when they have tested it properly. That for me is playing fair. Don't bash it till you have seen or tried it. If you don't like it after that then fair play.

Nothing else looks like it and that's why i think its a design classic.

You could say the same thing about the south end of a northbound mule, but it hardly makes it a "classic." This product encapsulates, to me, all that is wrong with the Modern B&O Company. It's a kludge, a bunch of off the shelf parts for the most part, glued together without much style, and they want extremely high prices for it. At least it has Netflix, apparently B&O realizes that not putting a Netflix button on the remote is a loser of an idea, I'm betting LG forced them to do it.

I think after all the dust settles the BV12 will go down as the best TV B&O made.

Jeff wrote:

Nothing else looks like it and that's why i think its a design classic.

You could say the same thing about the south end of a northbound mule, but it hardly makes it a "classic."

I can't even get my head around how someone thinks a standard off-the-shelf LG panel, slotted into a BV7-style soundbar, makes it a "classic". In many ways it looks *worse* than the BV7 which I bought in....2004.

Truly funny how people view design in different ways. Ok, not saying I'm going to get a Loewe, but at least they are *trying* to do something different/unique.

moxxey wrote:

Jeff wrote:

Nothing else looks like it and that's why i think its a design classic.

You could say the same thing about the south end of a northbound mule, but it hardly makes it a "classic."

I can't even get my head around how someone thinks a standard off-the-shelf LG panel, slotted into a BV7-style soundbar, makes it a "classic". In many ways it looks *worse* than the BV7 which I bought in....2004.

Truly funny how people view design in different ways. Ok, not saying I'm going to get a Loewe, but at least they are *trying* to do something different/unique.

I really don't see whats so special about how a Loewe looks. Most of their offerings looks like its a just a screen.  I doubt anyone is going to walk into a lounge and notice a Loewe.....put an eclipse in a lounge and you are very likely to get a question or two!! I won't go into build quality as I have never looked closely or tried a Loewe

BenSA wrote:

..put an eclipse in a lounge and you are very likely to get a question or two!!

Right, "..the hell is that?".

BenSA wrote:

I really don't see whats so special about how a Loewe looks. Most of their offerings looks like its a just a screen. I doubt anyone is going to walk into a lounge and notice a Loewe.....put an eclipse in a lounge and you are very likely to get a question or two!! I won't go into build quality as I have never looked closely or tried a Loewe

I saw it in the flesh, but not operating, on Wednesday and thought it to be stylistically an excellent evolution of BV7. With BV7 I always thought the sound bar to be visually awkward; in the Eclipse although projecting from the sides it appears well integrated - its presence enhancing an otherwise large black glass rectangle.

The BV 10/11 which I still have and love was inspired, but did not work so well in the larger sizes.

By its very nature a premium product will always have to be exceptional in all ways to be 'great' value for money.

In the current market B&O cannot afford to have the first models tainted by software glitches.

xps60 wrote:

Obviously the conflict between the designers from the speakers department and their colleagues from the displays department could not be resolved. This is the result. A design nightmare.

Not at all - that is certainly not the way it works in Struer, when they make new products!

MM

The BeoVision Eclipse design is really starting to grow on me after viewing the photos each day. I hated the BeoLab 5 when it first came out. Now, it is one of my most prized B&O pieces. I first thought that the BeoVision7 was awkward with its protruding lower speaker, then I fell in love with the design and bought my 7-55. I can't wait to see the Eclipse in person. My only reservation is the new OLED longevity and lack of B&O classic features such as the curtain effect. I can definitely see myself having the 55 inch in one of my extra rooms in the near future.